this is only an excerpt of the whole artile. it is a long one but a VERY good one. in debates with friends i have kinda said shit would go this way but not to this extent in those debates.

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From Hitler to Pinochet and beyond, history shows there are certain steps that any would-be dictator must take to destroy constitutional freedoms. And, argues Naomi Wolf, George Bush and his administration seem to be taking them all Last autumn, there was a military coup in Thailand. The leaders of the coup took a number of steps, rather systematically, as if they had a shopping list. In a sense, they did. Within a matter of days, democracy had been closed down: the coup leaders declared martial law, sent armed soldiers into residential areas, took over radio and TV stations, issued restrictions on the press, tightened some limits on travel, and took certain activists into custody. They were not figuring these things out as they went along. If you look at history, you can see that there is essentially a blueprint for turning an open society into a dictatorship. That blueprint has been used again and again in more and less bloody, more and less terrifying ways. But it is always effective. It is very difficult and arduous to create and sustain a democracy - but history shows that closing one down is much simpler. You simply have to be willing to take the 10 steps. As difficult as this is to contemplate, it is clear, if you are willing to look, that each of these 10 steps has already been initiated today in the United States by the Bush administration.

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

thats why the forefathers left the control to the senate right? so 50 people have the rule, not 1... unfortuntaly most of these laws were passed in the house and the senate, so we've got a whole level of idiots in washington making decisions for us: /

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Originally posted by Zombie0729 thats why the forefathers left the control to the senate right? so 50 people have the rule, not 1... unfortuntaly most of these laws were passed in the house and the senate, so we've got a whole level of idiots in washington making decisions for us: /

But they are all ruled by one.

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she was on The Cobert Show recently wasn't she?

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Originally posted by Zombie0729 thats why the forefathers left the control to the senate right? so 50 people have the rule, not 1... unfortuntaly most of these laws were passed in the house and the senate, so we've got a whole level of idiots in washington making decisions for us: /

well the reason a bunch of the laws pass is because there is like 5 people in the session cause they hold some "emergency" or "late night" session but make sure its when all the opposition is out on leave or whatever. so then the remaining, their supporters, are left and they vote it into law. i personally think this should be banned.

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel well the reason a bunch of the laws pass is because there is like 5 people in the session cause they hold some "emergency" or "late night" session but make sure its when all the opposition is out on leave or whatever. so then the remaining, their supporters, are left and they vote it into law. i personally think this should be banned.

yeah, same thing was said about the federal reserve act... that it got passed when all the senators were on holiday. however, laws can easily be ratified if the senate sees fit, meaning, you and & i (senator ross and senator gehzumtefel) go on vacation but come back to this new law we hate. well it will take 2/3 of the senate to ratify a law so all we have to do is gain some support for it and go get it changed. the fact that few senators ever try this shows a lack of caring imo.

Sad but true.

There's no motive for those in charge to change the form of government, since they can already do whatever they want (and take less blame for it than a dictator would, to boot!)

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Originally posted by Zombie0729 yeah, same thing was said about the federal reserve act... that it got passed when all the senators were on holiday. however, laws can easily be ratified if the senate sees fit, meaning, you and & i (senator ross and senator gehzumtefel) go on vacation but come back to this new law we hate. well it will take 2/3 of the senate to ratify a law so all we have to do is gain some support for it and go get it changed. the fact that few senators ever try this shows a lack of caring imo.

very true...sadly few of them care for anything more than money.

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

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Originally posted by Arbiter There's no motive for those in charge to change the form of government, since they can already do whatever they want (and take less blame for it than a dictator would, to boot!)

They wouldn't get away with it, either. Not if they declared exactly what they were. They can get away with a lot more masquerading as something they're not; perpetuation of the lie and subsequent assimilation of other foreign prospects under the guise of 'democracy' also avails policy makers with more exploitable economic and political resources to bring it as far as they could ever want. If things stay the way they are, I doubt people, in general, would ever truly know what is going on at the root of things - and that is exactly how they would want it. Can get a lot more control if you stunt the spread of information as well as have hegemony over what the people thing is 'logical'.

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.