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xiad
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Registered: Aug 2006
Location: Cornfield, USA
creating a mini club on college campus

Alright so here's the deal. My college has had some issues with it being quite boring for students to stay on campus over the past several years.
In response, the college is working on turning one of the older gyms on campus into a 'club' of sorts.
I've been put as student in charge of all of the DJ side of things. They want me to be 'resident' there since I've played at a few parties lately that have gone down quite nicely. Pretty much the only person that is going to be playing at parties will be myself.
I'm now stuck with a dilemma. Do I recommend all of the club-quality equipment that you would see at your average club, or do I try to shave costs as much as I can and do something mediocre, so that the students down the line who don't happen to be DJ's can use the equipment too?
for example, they have been talking to a local A/V store and the store is recommending that they buy:

1.Numark iDJ2.
2. Crown 475w split speaker amplifier
3. Four 200w Yamaha speakers

theres a bunch of other items in the list, like mikes, cables, labor, ect

I've been thinking about recommending a basic pro-quality DJ setup instead of the iDJ2
1. 2 CDJ 800's
2. DJM 600

What do you guys recommend? I'm really unsure about all this.....


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stan229
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Registered: Jul 2006
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im not gonna go extensively into this but dont get cheap shit.. and only djs should be the ones playing music, not random people plugging in their ipods

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Allied Nations
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I'd try and smash the Idj/ipod way of looking at this as soon as possible. It obviously isn't what you are looking for.


Maybe used gear as an alternative?


A used CMX3000 and a used vestax mixer would be a much better alternative....


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Yohan
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Does your school have a DJ club of some sorts? Or other people you can turn to for some help? Because this sounds like it's going to be a lot of work.

As for equipment wise, well, things like speakers and monitors can be used by other people for non DJ related stuff.

DJ gear... well, exactly how much of a budget do you have? How big is the gym?


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xiad
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Registered: Aug 2006
Location: Cornfield, USA

The gym isn't really that big. Its all built around a standard sized basket ball court. They are making barriers (like closing rafter type things) that are going to cut 1/4 from each side of the court, turning the dance floor into 1/2 a basketball court.

So far, midwest audio (the company who is looking at all this) has sent us a proposal for $8,500 which includes speakers, monitors, and outdoor speaker for people outside the 'club', wireless mics, wiring, the Numark iDJ2, and a video projector with an S vid cable (the video idea has been tossed around, but the staff member who is planning all this doesn't realize you would probably need someone to VJ with that sort of thing).

Another thing, they don't want to buy used.

So yeah, were looking at a budget of around $8k, but do you think it would be worth advising them to buy cdj800's and a djm600 or something of the like, if it is only me who will be djing on this stuff? As much as i'd love to, I don't know whether or not all this will work for students once I graduate


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I_Am_Vince
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Registered: Jan 2006
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how about 2 x tech 12 + serato/torq combination? it's cheap and strong, tech 12s last forever, no worry on maintenance after several years

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so im just wondering..sicne its a college sponsored thing, im guessing at this club there wouldn't be any alch....

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Shini
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Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Brisbane, Australia

I think you should go with something more than the numakr iDJ, if your not going to get 800s there are lots of good quality dual CD systems out there or you could go with vinyl control like mentioned above. Your not going to be workign there everynight so your going to need to either find another DJ on campus or train someone and it is going to be eaiser to do that with decks rather than an iDJ but that is just my two cents.

With the vid things you can just plug it into a laptop and have a visualisation or film clip going, problem is that without any projector it doen't seem (from what you discribed) like there is going to be a lot of visuals going so you would need lighting anyway.


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xiad
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Registered: Aug 2006
Location: Cornfield, USA

There's going to be alcohol allowed. We're building a 'removable bar' with third party catering. 21 year olds can drink, but like any other school event, they're going to be watching all the minors. It's cool though, because we are the only wet campus in the state.

Anyway back to this. I think what I'm going to do is look into the cdj800, or at least 200's. I'm not going to be doing this every night, but probably on a weekly or biweekly basis, plus any events that frats or sororities want to throw.

I think this could be the start of something big, IF we could get it to work. This has gotta be planned to the T and make sure no one ignorant about all this shit starts being dumb about it.


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MERiDiAN5i2
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Location: Texas, USA

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2. Crown 475w split speaker amplifier
3. Four 200w Yamaha speakers


I use more sound than that for houseparties, FFS. What do they think this is, a quiet zone?? Where's the bass?

This is a gym, so high ceilings, right?

Personally, if they are recommending low end yamaha speakers, an amp that won't even drive them well and an iDJ, you're dealing with the wrong people. Especially at that sort of cost range.

Afterthought: maybe you mean 475w/channel, like the CDi2000? That'd atleast drive the speakers. But still.. where's the bass

Good sound is a must

As far as the DJ gear, CDJ800s/DJM800 is _alot_ of money. I'd consider CDJ200s and a more modest but flexible mixer, put the money you saved into some lights. Consider the overall effect of the environment, not any one singular piece. Forget the projector, visuals are a whole can or worms... then you get to deal with a VDJ, computer setup to run it, bulbs to burn out, etc. blah blah. stick with some good lights.

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Trance Nutter
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Adelaide, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by xiad
make sure no one ignorant about all this shit starts being dumb about it.


Then I'd strongly suggest against getting an iDJ. If you do you're garuanteed getting dumbfucks thinking they're the shit with their ipods.

If they start kicking up a fuss about costs suggest ditching the video stuff (as cool as that would be if you could get it to work, but like you said to do it properly you'd need a VJ) and using that money on gear.

CDJs and a Mixer. By far the best way to go as far as I can see.


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