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Sushipunk
Flickering, I roam



Registered: Sep 2006
Location: Chateau Verdafloor
A moral question. Nature related.

A little over an hour ago, we were up in the park across the road.

We've been feeding, and observing, a pair of Pied Butcher Birds, on their nest, and their fledgling has just left the nest as of two days ago.

The fledglings can't actually fly properly, until aprox. 2-3 weeks after they leave the nest. They generally just sit around in various branches of the nest tree, until they're capable of doing intense stuff like going down to the ground.

THIS little guy has ended up on the ground, 2 days after leaving the nest. It's so hopeless, and so vulnerable to cats, etc.

Essentially, we have a choice. Leave it, and let nature take it's course... Or, now that it's dark and we can probably find where it's sitting on the ground all calm/roosting. Should we 'kidnap' it (for use of a better word) and raise it, just so it doesn't die? There's a chance that the parents might accept it back in a couple of weeks, once it can fly up to somewhere that it's roughly safe (like into a tree)... But they also may not.

The two schools of thought are kind of driving me nuts.

One way or another, we'll either do something, or nothing. I'm just curious as to what you guys think. I'm aware you guys probably aren't into wildlife stuff like I am, but I'd still be interested to hear what you think

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Baby bird. Can't fly yet. Should be up in a tree. Is on the ground instead. Will most likely get pwned, before long. Let nature take it's course? Or 'kidnap' it and raise it, with a slight possibility that it's parents may accept it back in 2-ish weeks?


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Fledz
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The chances of them accepting it back are second to none. Just from touching it it picks up your scent and would be hard to get off.

You can be nice and raise it, but it's not as easy as you may think.


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depends on the species


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bamski
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Kidnap. And then if the parents won't accept it.. you can't blame yourself for trying. If you just leave it you should get banned.

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Sushipunk
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Registered: Sep 2006
Location: Chateau Verdafloor

Did quite a bit of research this afternoon, and spoke to some knowledgeable folks.

A lot of people have made makeshift nests for them, using ice cream containers etc. just so they're up in a tree again.

We ninja'd one up, but when we headed back up to the park, we couldn't find the little guy. It would appear it's been stashed away pretty well. Which is good

Hopefully we won't find a bunch of feathers somewhere up there in the morning.


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Ian
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it's probably run away from Andrew Hansen offering it low prices. but good on you for trying

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Omega_M
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Nothing wrong in saving a poor bird from cats. It's probably going to die, left to itself. Why not give it a chance to live ?

We are all part of this nature. I guess if you help the bird, it would still technically be a natural process.


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Zild
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I think you should respect nature and allow the natural cycle of death to take its course. If little birds didn't fall out of their nests other animals would die from starvation. Then you'd have to go out and find those animals and feed them since you screwed them out of a meal.


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but the feral cats are not living in a natural habitat either. They are probably getting plenty of food to eat, from the dumpster and other places in the park.

They will not die if a small bird is saved by human intervention.


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Feed the bird to the cats!


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---howbout you try putting it back in the nest o-o


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quote:
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Feed the bird to the cats!



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