What would be the optimum level of playing a current track and bringing in a new track so that when they are on the same level the same amount of volume is present.
Eg, I have a DJM400 mixer and the upfader levels obviously are 1-10, so when im playing a track at say 10 and am bringing in a new track is it ideal to bring the new one all the way to 10 so that they are both playing at 10?
Because from what I've noticed once the original is playing out it loses volume automatically, and hence the overall volume drops. I just want the set to keep a the same volume! Cheers

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Last edited by djphatt on Nov-04-2007 at 11:45

This is just one of things you need to practice and get right yourself.

It depends on your mixer and the tracks you're playing, but usually bringing a track up to about 8 or 9 then fading through (so that the incoming track ends up at 10 and the outgoing track ends up at 8 or 9) tends to keep the levels relatively balanced, then obviously you can fade out the outgoing track from there.

You'll see that the bass is the part that "adds up" more, i.e. if you take the bass out on one of the tracks you can have both tracks at 10 with very little increase in output volume.

As above, just practice listening out and watching the output level to see where it balances for your mixer and the particular tracks you're playing at the time.

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amateur question here:

Is it common for some to just leave the volume faders set for the songs and mix tracks in only with the cross fader? Obviously that adjusts the volume of both tracks as well.

I've been using a DJM 600 and usually just set the volume levels the same on both tracks and use the cross fader and Eqs to mix. I could be completely wrong in this but sometimes it seems to work nicely

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Originally posted by Sukhoi29SU amateur question here: Is it common for some to just leave the volume faders set for the songs and mix tracks in only with the cross fader? Obviously that adjusts the volume of both tracks as well. I've been using a DJM 600 and usually just set the volume levels the same on both tracks and use the cross fader and Eqs to mix. I could be completely wrong in this but sometimes it seems to work nicely

you can do that, it's just using the volume faders/eqs ends up giving you more control during the mix

it's all preferance, but most people choose to use the channel faders, because, as stated above, it's more flexible to mix that way..

i also started out using the crossfaders, because that was the way i was taught by a friend, but after i started using the channel faders, i never went back.. i don't remember when was the last time i used the crossfader... i don't know what it is anymore.. what is a crossfader..?

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Last edited by aLviNx80 on Nov-05-2007 at 05:33

Cool, thanks for the replies guys.
Another follow up question, then..

Do you just leave the cross fader centered then, and mix only using the volume? I'll have to try that this weekend

Thanks again

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Originally posted by Sukhoi29SU Cool, thanks for the replies guys. Another follow up question, then.. Do you just leave the cross fader centered then, and mix only using the volume? I'll have to try that this weekend Thanks again

i have a pio djm 400... so i set the cross fader curve to "thru" which basically disables the crossfader completely... a lot of mixers nowadays let you change the curve... but i know with my old behringer ( ) i didn't have the option, so i left it in the middle

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Originally posted by palm -0.2dB

Which is about 9.5 for those of us working with a 0 - 10 scale on their faders

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turn the eq's down, gradually bring the incoming track up to 10, then use the eq's to swap the dominant track, then gradually take the fader down on the outgoing track

Thats how i do it anyway

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Just use the faders/EQs/gain to balance the levels. It isn't magic you have to turn one source down as you turn the other one up or your set will get louder then quieter every time you mix in a new song.

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When it comes to mixing, my opinion is "to each their own." If you feel that the crossfader works for you AND IT SOUNDS GOOD, then by all means. I use the channel faders, however you might want to try this... Since you have the pioneer mixer, hence that on every channel you have the LED meters that indicate the level of the sound by color. For arguments sake, channel one has the track playing out to the crowd. On channel two, you are listening to the song that you are going to mix next. Put your two faders on level 10, and adjust the sound level with the GAIN KNOBS ON THE CHANNEL accordingly with the LEDs. In other words, make sure that the song that you are listening to on channel two reads the same sound level on the LEDs as it is on channel one. Basically the faders will stay @ level 10 all the time, what you will adjust is the gain knobs so that the LED's are @ the same level. I hope that made sense I tried to explain it the best I could lol. Cheers!