I, for one, can't stand his new stuff.... His productions pre-2007 as Sandler, Sam Sharp, and his remixes as himself (Sander Van Doorn) were pure creativity and a new sound no one had ever heard before, true genius... Now it's just "techno for dummies"... Anyone listening to real guys like the producers Chris Liebing or Dave Clarke or Adam Beyer are supporting will realize how technically and creatively superior they are... For me, Sander's definitely above-par, but not the mastermind or genius people are beginning to claim he is... I really don't think he's pushing the boundaries, like he was doing two years ago. His current sound is something Marco V would have banged out (successfully) several years ago, but it's nothing refreshing in my book... Just my two cents, I'm sure plenty of people are going to disagree with me though, but that's what we're here for!!

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Originally posted by DJ Eco I, for one, can't stand his new stuff.... His productions pre-2007 as Sandler, Sam Sharp, and his remixes as himself (Sander Van Doorn) were pure creativity and a new sound no one had ever heard before, true genius... Now it's just "techno for dummies"... Anyone listening to real guys like the producers Chris Liebing or Dave Clarke or Adam Beyer are supporting will realize how technically and creatively superior they are... For me, Sander's definitely above-par, but not the mastermind or genius people are beginning to claim he is... I really don't think he's pushing the boundaries, like he was doing two years ago. His current sound is something Marco V would have banged out (successfully) several years ago, but it's nothing refreshing in my book... Just my two cents, I'm sure plenty of people are going to disagree with me though, but that's what we're here for!!

This post pissed me off.

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Originally posted by DJ Eco I, for one, can't stand his new stuff.... His productions pre-2007 as Sandler, Sam Sharp, and his remixes as himself (Sander Van Doorn) were pure creativity and a new sound no one had ever heard before, true genius... Now it's just "techno for dummies"... Anyone listening to real guys like the producers Chris Liebing or Dave Clarke or Adam Beyer are supporting will realize how technically and creatively superior they are... For me, Sander's definitely above-par, but not the mastermind or genius people are beginning to claim he is... I really don't think he's pushing the boundaries, like he was doing two years ago. His current sound is something Marco V would have banged out (successfully) several years ago, but it's nothing refreshing in my book... Just my two cents, I'm sure plenty of people are going to disagree with me though, but that's what we're here for!!

YEAAAAAAAA alright more like , "I liked him when he was new and now that he's big and popular I'm not allowed to like him yeaaa underground 4 lyfe suck it tiesto!!!"

I for one can appreciate a dj not because of his image or popularity but because of the artistic merit, if you can't get past the fact that he made it then too bad for you.

You really got me figured out there, Miss Cleo... LOL... First off, I'm not a Tiesto hater, I liked him a lot after I saw him last... Everything I said in my previous post was comparing to other artists (and their musical and artistic preferences) who have made it 40 times bigger than Sander has.... Thus, my comment that technically speaking, he's techno for dummies, after listening to real-deal guys like Preach, Liebing, and whatever producers they've got in their record box at the moment... Nice job.

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Originally posted by ownymcown YEAAAAAAAA alright more like , "I liked him when he was new and now that he's big and popular I'm not allowed to like him yeaaa underground 4 lyfe suck it tiesto!!!" I for one can appreciate a dj not because of his image or popularity but because of the artistic merit, if you can't get past the fact that he made it then too bad for you.

The way of forum life... once something gets big one goes to forum to bash it cuz it's cool, yo.

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Originally posted by DJ Eco I, for one, can't stand his new stuff.... His productions pre-2007 as Sandler, Sam Sharp, and his remixes as himself (Sander Van Doorn) were pure creativity and a new sound no one had ever heard before, true genius... Now it's just "techno for dummies"... Anyone listening to real guys like the producers Chris Liebing or Dave Clarke or Adam Beyer are supporting will realize how technically and creatively superior they are... For me, Sander's definitely above-par, but not the mastermind or genius people are beginning to claim he is... I really don't think he's pushing the boundaries, like he was doing two years ago. His current sound is something Marco V would have banged out (successfully) several years ago, but it's nothing refreshing in my book... Just my two cents, I'm sure plenty of people are going to disagree with me though, but that's what we're here for!!

I agree that SvD is overrated.

I think, however, that you are using the term "genius" a little too liberally. Albert Eistein, Thomas Edison, Ludwig Mond, Isaac Newton, Leonardo da Vinci, Milton Friedman, Adam Smith, René Descartes, Sander Ketelaars, which name doesn't fit? Hint, it starts with sander.

All of you who say you have the right to like someone even though they are famous - STFU! So many times do people get attacked from assholes who say "oh so he wins in polls cause of this and this.. or you only like him cause hes famous." This argument should die already. People like SVD cause they like him - and dont cause they dont. People like tiesto cause they like him or dont cause they dont.

About SVD, i never liked him and still dont. I def think for his genre he is overrated as there are others i prefer way over svd. .. and i dont like him cause he is famous and im cool just like 90 percent of this board. FUCK THE POLLS! im to good for the top 10000000!

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Originally posted by element-y All of you who say you have the right to like someone even though they are famous - STFU! So many times do people get attacked from assholes who say "oh so he wins in polls cause of this and this.. or you only like him cause hes famous." This argument should die already. People like SVD cause they like him - and dont cause they dont. People like tiesto cause they like him or dont cause they dont. About SVD, i never liked him and still dont. I def think for his genre he is overrated as there are others i prefer way over svd. .. and i dont like him cause he is famous and im cool just like 90 percent of this board. FUCK THE POLLS! im to good for the top 10000000!

I total agree with u 100%


seriously whats the big deal about this Kid SVD !
I seen him once and once enough 4 me !!!

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i liked purple haze adrenaline...

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Originally posted by DJ Eco Anyone listening to real guys like the producers Chris Liebing or Dave Clarke or Adam Beyer are supporting will realize how technically and creatively superior they are...

Chris Liebing at "Welcome to the Future" festival 2007


Chris Liebing Live @ Nature One 2007



Dec 20th will be Techno Heaven at Cielo.

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Originally posted by Vikingus The way of forum life... once something gets big one goes to forum to bash it cuz it's cool, yo.

I think for once, that's not the case... Like I said, I'm clearly comparing him to both REALLY REALLY FAMOUS guys, and really really not famous guys, saying there's a lot of guys out there who are technically superior and fans of Sander should open their eyes to them... I can't help but listen to "back by any demand" and think (((hmmm.... cheese.). I can't help but listen to "riff" and think (((hmmm.... Marco V 2001.). When I heard "adrenaline" by Purple Haze, I thought that track was amazing... His "direkt dizko" remix was amazing... His Arctic Monkeys remix was very good, and so was his "s.o.s." bootleg... There's plenty of guys who have made it successful and are now famous that I think are amazing... Granted, I think Sander's talented, I have respect for him and yes, I might actually catch him next time he's live, BUT I was anticipating people saying how amazing he was, so I gave my own opinion, as harsh as it may seem... Anyway, I'm curious to see what he does with an album, as opposed to a single.

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