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denys envy
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: falLAcy, CA
Tonight I leave you with this thought...

The problem of moral luck is that some people are born into, live within, and experience circumstances that seem to change their moral culpability when all other factors remain the same. For example, a poor person is born into a poor family, and has no other way to feed himself so he steals his food. Another person, born into a very wealthy family, does very little but has ample food and does not need to steal to get it. Should the poor person be more morally blameworthy than the rich person? After all, it is not his fault that he was born into such circumstances, but a matter of "luck". The fundamental question is how our moral responsibility is changed by factors over which we have no control.

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By stealing food, though, he's robbing others of the ability to come out of their poor status.

Or otherwise robbing others of their work.

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Re: Tonight I leave you with this thought...

That just goes to show that morality is ultimately up to the individual. If you're poor you recognize that stealing is illegal but on the other hand moral values aren't going to stop any human being from getting what is necessary to them.

Here in the US murder is immoral and very illegal yet there are very few cases where US soldiers kill innocent civilians and are held accountable. Usually those murders are written off as "collateral damage." Morality is pretty subjective in most cases, a society can enforce laws all it wants but it can never force moral values on it's citizens.

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Is it morally wrong for a hungry poor man to steal food ? I would call it a fight for survival. Morality is subjective and there is no absolute moral frame of reference to begin with. Moral responsibility comes into the picture only when you deal with circumstances that are within your control. IMO.


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Whats wrong here?


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quote:
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Is it morally wrong for a hungry poor man to steal food ? I would call it a fight for survival. Morality is subjective and there is no absolute moral frame of reference to begin with. Moral responsibility comes into the picture only when you deal with circumstances that are within your control. IMO.


I agree with this douche.


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denys envy
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quote:
Originally posted by spc
Whats wrong here?


no apostrophe in "whats".

supposed to be "what's".

amirite!?

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quote:
Originally posted by Aristronica
no apostrophe in "whats".

supposed to be "what's".

amirite!?


win!

ok time to get my ass to work and do the same thing i'm doing right now


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denys envy
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win!

ok time to get my ass to work and do the same thing i'm doing right now


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just kill the poor and let the rich steal what few valuables the poor have making them even richer.

poor people suck


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