anyone ever watch this??

zeitgeistmovie.com

i dont beleive the 911 stuff but the rest of the movie is pretty intersting

i posted it a few months back..

the 911 part is the most important part

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Originally posted by beefy k the 911 part is the most important part

the last part (monetary policy/world bank) is the most important... the 911 part is full of flaws and debunked theories

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I bought the DVD so I could watch it in DVD quality on a TV haha

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Originally posted by Swamper the last part (monetary policy/world bank) is the most important... the 911 part is full of flaws and debunked theories

Elaborate...

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Originally posted by zokissima Elaborate...

Watch Aaron Russo's documentary "America Freedom to Facism" to further elaborate on the monetary policy portion of the film.

Zietgeist really just rips off 3 other documentarys and try's to
combine the 3 theories into one massive conspiracy.

The 911 part is mostly based on "Loose Change"... a documentary (falsumentary actually) that entertains the possibility that 911 was a perputrated by the US government. It has many 'facts' that have been repeatedly proven false by many more credible sources. Just google it and the guy who made it.

Best proof why its bullshit....The documentary claims that the US government pulled of the greatest hoax the world has ever seen, involving thousands people and fooling millions. Yet the same government can not prevent some college students conspiracy theory from making it to the public. Ps. The guy is still alive, that should be proof enough that his theory is BS.

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2 things that really bugged me about it

first of all, the religion part at the start is a flawed perspective... religions don't come into place because people promote an idea ('plagiarized' or not), the archetypes such as 'the ressurecting savior guy' are ideas in our subconsciousness that exist/have potential to develop in any society at any time period. and there was other retarded stuff... like sun and son were not fucking homonyms 2000 years ago... there was other little things like that that really irked me that i can't remember.. but the whole section was devoted to proving christianity is bullshit because it plagiarized other religions... there are much more rational theories that explain how religion is developed such as those of karl marx, emile durkheim, and august comte... and if it takes the half-assed theory from the movie to debunk the supernatural aspects of religion in any one person, they're a fucking idiot

and the second main thing that bugged me was them jumping to conclusions about conspiracy theories and the illuminati (or whoever's) future agenda... they state some interesting facts and show interviews... but then say that because of this that means that there is some sinister long term plan involving the world population getting axed and people getting microchipped, without any proof of that. just because one pillar of a conspiracy theory is proven to be true doesn't mean the rest of it is

but yeah, the stuff about the way banks work is what people need to get educated on and really get angry about...

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i really wished they left the 911 stuff out. It just doesnt make sense that no one would have noticed the pre planting of explosions on ever FLOOR of the building. I like how they presented the stuff on religion too.

oh and the stuff about the movie director getting a call from one of the ROCKAFellas seemed like a crock of shit mang.. excuse my mexican

im not defending the current system but you gotta think too that through out the centuries humanity has been pretty barbaric and as unfair as the monetary system is its pretty effective at keeping people civilized when compared to the past.

oh and i cant forget the AMERO.... arnt people making Billions of dollars because we currently have to convert money to different currencies every day.. long term a universal currency kinda sounds more efficient.

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Originally posted by Zentac_75 Ps. The guy is still alive, that should be proof enough that his theory is BS.

Thats in no way proof of anything.

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Anyways, I haven't watched Zeitgiest but if you guys want an idea of how governments and big business operate then you have to watch "Century of Self" by BBC4. I posted it in the Documentary thread but it looks like some of you people here might enjoy it too...

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Sigmund Freud, the founder of psychoanalysis, changed the perception of the human mind and its workings profoundly. His influence on the 20th century is widely regarded as massive. The documentary describes the impact of Freud's theories on the perception of the human mind, and the ways public relations agencies and politicians have used this during the last 100 years for their "engineering of consent".

-Wikipedia synopsis


Here are the links:

BBC's "Century of Self"

Part 1: Happiness Machines
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2637635365191428174

Part 2: The Engineering of Consent
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-678466363224520614

Part 3: There is a Policeman Inside All Our Heads: He Must Be Destroyed
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6111922724894802811

Part 4: Eight People Sipping Wine in Kettering
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1122532358497501036

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Originally posted by DaRoZa such as those of karl marx, emile durkheim, and august comte... and if it takes the half-assed theory from the movie to debunk the supernatural aspects of religion in any one person, they're a fucking idiot

holey sociology. I agree though