Giving this a listen.

Thanks mate, hope you'll like it

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I really enjoyed this, very creative. Totally did not expect it to get into a climax like that at all with the beat and everything. Marvelous work, only thing that seems to stand out is the first 30 seconds seem to have a bit too much low-mid end on them. Might be just me.

09:00 is my favorite part, the synth in that is absolutely gorgeous and full of emotion.

Also I think most of the instruments could use a bit more reverb, I may be wrong though, I like things to have a bit more space in them

Overall great stuff.

Very nice and emotionell! The piano and trumpet sounds great! The only thing I think of, is that you could make it more trancy with more effects. However, enjoyeble 27 minutes!


Takere!

Akia

This is pretty good, I like it! I bet this took a looong friggin time to make huh. Did you use Orchestral? I love that VST.

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gwrmarines: oh yeah, indeed I did, but I've also partially tweaked some of the sounds and so on

Akia: great to hear you've liked it

jupiterone: yes you're right about the very beginning sounding a bit unbalanced...but I think it's not anything disasterous
Thanks for praises


oh yeah and just to answer the question about how long it took...

it was about 2-3 months...started as a simple venture into more "classical" music...

Then it developed into this...

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I'm sorry to bump this topic (as i's pretty old) but the track has really a special importance to me and I want you to hear it...so please excuse me

I've also checked the link to make sure it still works ...

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Very cool, very different, very long. Nothing bad one could say about this track i love the intro.

in short, do not make music of this type again. Anyone with any kind of classical training will tell you the same thing. I dont want to appear mean, but when you step into the orchestral genre you are compared with hundreds of years of musical history. if you make electro that "upto par" might be easier to attain. You cannot produce orchestral music without a proper musical education. You clearly have none. I'm not saying every piece must abide by certain rules, however, you must start with rules with which you then break. You dont even KNOW the rules so you dont know how to break them. its like painting. You cant just splatter paint on a canvas randomly and get credit for it unless you have already proved you can do a still life painting with subject matter. I suggest you take the only good thing about this track (that beat loop you have) and fashion a break track out of it. And please never ever put such awful sounding blaring trumpets ontop of soft reverbed piano. Thats about where i stopped listening cuz i had to run to get some tissues to clean up all the barf.


----- Yes you piss of people with musical education when you do stuff like this. Dont think you can get away with it, EVEN on TA just cuz most people havent a clue what counterpoint is, there are the small % of us who end up saving money on our emetic pills cuz we have to put up wiht stuff like this.
cheers
matt

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Originally posted by aeonia in short, do not make music of this type again. Anyone with any kind of classical training will tell you the same thing. I dont want to appear mean, but when you step into the orchestral genre you are compared with hundreds of years of musical history. if you make electro that "upto par" might be easier to attain. You cannot produce orchestral music without a proper musical education. You clearly have none. I'm not saying every piece must abide by certain rules, however, you must start with rules with which you then break. You dont even KNOW the rules so you dont know how to break them. its like painting. You cant just splatter paint on a canvas randomly and get credit for it unless you have already proved you can do a still life painting with subject matter. I suggest you take the only good thing about this track (that beat loop you have) and fashion a break track out of it. And please never ever put such awful sounding blaring trumpets ontop of soft reverbed piano. Thats about where i stopped listening cuz i had to run to get some tissues to clean up all the barf. ----- Yes you piss of people with musical education when you do stuff like this. Dont think you can get away with it, EVEN on TA just cuz most people havent a clue what counterpoint is, there are the small % of us who end up saving money on our emetic pills cuz we have to put up wiht stuff like this. cheers matt

You may have musical training, yes. Probably much more than myself and Booster. Something that your training obviously didn't teach you though, is that music is an interpretive art form, just like most every other form of art. One does not have to be trained in said field to be able to create, or appreciate music of any kind.

That is like me saying "Just beacause I am en english major, and you don't type with proper grammar, don't use any type of punctuation in your sentences. Better yet, don't type if you can't do it correctly. It annoys every english major that ever lived. I now forbid you from doing so." That's just stupid, wouldn't you say?

He accomplished what he set out to do, he created a piece of music that was special to him. If other people like it as well, that's great. Had it been perfectly scored, that would have been fine too.
Just remember, somebody had to create the rules of which you speak, they are not set in stone, nor should they be. The world would be a sad place if all music were perfectly structured to a specific set of rules. We would be missing out big time.

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Originally posted by P_Kozy You may have musical training, yes. Probably much more than myself and Booster. Something that your training obviously didn't teach you though, is that music is an interpretive art form, just like most every other form of art. One does not have to be trained in said field to be able to create, or appreciate music of any kind. That is like me saying "Just beacause I am en english major, and you don't type with proper grammar, don't use any type of punctuation in your sentences. Better yet, don't type if you can't do it correctly. It annoys every english major that ever lived. I now forbid you from doing so." That's just stupid, wouldn't you say? He accomplished what he set out to do, he created a piece of music that was special to him. If other people like it as well, that's great. Had it been perfectly scored, that would have been fine too. Just remember, somebody had to create the rules of which you speak, they are not set in stone, nor should they be. The world would be a sad place if all music were perfectly structured to a specific set of rules. We would be missing out big time.

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I never said that music HAD to be governed by rules (I specifically said that it did NOT have to be, I only advocated that one learn the traditional rules FIRST before doing whatever the hell he or she wants to) and I understand that any combination of sound can be special to someone as a creative enterprise; however, one thing that angers real students of music are people who have not attempted to actually study the workings of harmony and music theory (that have been "discovered" by our musical forerunners and evolved ofer centuries) and then put out a 27 minute "orchestral" track that gets only GOOD reviews. It actually says more about the REVIEWERS understanding of music than the composer!
Also, because this piece uses traditional instruments and is based on traditional harmony (not 12-tone, serial or phrygian) it should be reviewed in regard to the "rules" that govern those musical elements. Even if he is trying to break from these rules, intentionally (say he already knew what deviations he was employing, which he doesn't), even then, I think the piece sounds horrible and evokes little musical talent. My advice IS good: go study music theory, counterpoint, chords, harmony, music history, and famous composers, listen to REAL orchestral music, learn to play an instrument, learn to read music...etc. OR else, compose in a genre the composer actually knows about.
I understand that my comments might anger the composer, but my opinion represents a large majority of music majors and composers of orchestral music. I think that the composer should convert any offense or ill feelings my comments might have aroused into a real passion to learn more and produce a piece that is musically sound.
I resent what the post modern era has done to young people's understanding of what music is. If you are calling me legalistic or conservative, I am far from it. I am a pianist who plays piano backwards, with random objects, and uses mathematical formulas and constants to work out pieces (those sound like crap to the layman but are employing a directed musical system). I only ask that composers (esp of orchestral music) start out with what has been learned before us and then branch out from there.
For all I know the composer could be 10 years old; if this is so... I wish he had mentioned this and I would have wrote a bit less negative review. I do NOT wish to discourage the composer from composing, but only to strive for excellence.
Cheers,
Matt

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