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ToXano
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Rotterdam
Pitchbending on a CDJ-1000

Hey guys,

I possess 2x Denon DN-S1000 cd players. I am very happy with them and they are very good players for their price.

The only bad thing about them is that you wont find them in any club, where the Pioneer CDJ-1000 is the standard.

I would like to know from somebody who played on both if the difference in pitchbending (using the platter) is similar. I know people will mention that the Denon's platter is touch-sensitive, but apart from that is there any difference in sensitivity? Or something else I should be aware of when using CDJ'ś?

Thanks

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tt_rossco
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Registered: Jan 2008
Location: Newcastle, Australia

Ok, so with the s1000, you turn the jog dial to slow or spee the track, and then you push harder to "scratch", yeah??

with the CDJ1000, there's two options.

CDJ mode means that you can't scratch, so its basically the same as the s1000 if you dont push down.

Vinyl mode makes the top surface of the jog dial touch sensitive, so if you touch it, it stops, scratches, etc, just like a normal vinyl. to do the pitch bend you use the side of the jog dial.

as far as actual sensitivity in the speed up / slow down sense, im not too sure, i've never really taken much notice!

Hope that makes sense?


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ToXano
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Thanks for the clarification.

So if I'm understanding it right, the side of the jog remains the same wether in Vinyl mode or in CDJ mode? So the only things that changes is the top of the Jog-wheel?

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Thats it!


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Stasis
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Having been raised on a little pair of Gemini CDJ-20's, where the only pitch-bending was done with two little black buttons, I'm actually more comfortable with the pitch bend buttons on modern Denon's.

Nudging the CDJ platter is fine and all, it's just that I kinda developed a knack for "riding the buttons" (that's just some jock jargon for y'all). Anyone else who started with junk CD players the same?


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ToXano
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Registered: Jul 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Stasis
Having been raised on a little pair of Gemini CDJ-20's, where the only pitch-bending was done with two little black buttons, I'm actually more comfortable with the pitch bend buttons on modern Denon's.

Nudging the CDJ platter is fine and all, it's just that I kinda developed a knack for "riding the buttons" (that's just some jock jargon for y'all). Anyone else who started with junk CD players the same?


I totally agree. DJing and bending with the + - buttons on my Denon works way better then any jogwheel based pitchbending method.

90% of the times I beatmatch on the fly as it is so easy with these buttons.

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Jarvmeister
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Registered: May 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by ToXano
I totally agree. DJing and bending with the + - buttons on my Denon works way better then any jogwheel based pitchbending method.


Pitchbend with the CDJ1000 and you'll soon realize that the Dennon method is somewhat lacking.........

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Stasis
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You hear this so often, and yet...I feel like the jog wheel is a so fluid and reacts so directly to how much pressure you push on it, it can be a mixed bag. To those who started with a jog wheel, I think they just get used to it, and develop a "touch" for it. For those who started using pitch-bend buttons, which are not about "pressure" but more about "timing", you start to get more comfortable using them instead.

It would be nice if Pioneer just added that feature to the CDJ line. For all "regular" DJ's, they could continue using the jog wheel, but for all us Denon (or in my case, Gemini, bleh) converts, they would provide a much smoother transition to the new hardware.


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Clovis
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Or you guys could just learn to not pitch bend


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Or you guys could just learn to not pitch bend


have to agree with this.


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Woah there, Clableton. Low blow



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Clovis
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I've been trying to put an end to my platter pushing addiction. Working the pitch slider is much more fun.


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