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John
In Praise Of The Sun



Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Delft / Den Haag / Dordrecht,
how to create a 'professional sound' with software

Heey all,
sometimes i try to make some trance with software..but is always sound like shit..dunno how to describe it..maybe 'empty' is a good word when i export something as wave/mp3 and listen to it in winamp, i notice that some frequencies are hardly in the song. so i guess im doing something wrong, but i dont know what
oh btw, im using reason
does anyone know of better software or how to get make it sound good? or is that just impossible with software?
thanks for help
peace

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mantisnl
luuk maes



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: holland

if some frequenties arent there.. u have 2 put ur track thru an equalizer when its still in reason..

if ur just starting out with making trance.. i can suggest u 1st try it with fruityloops.. its pretty good for learning..

grtz,

DJ Mantis


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Trancevision
MINDSOUNDSCAPES



Registered: Feb 2002
Location: Germany

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when i export something as wave/mp3 and listen to it in winamp, i notice that some frequencies are hardly in the song. so i guess im doing something wrong, but i dont know what


Reducing wav to mp3 with 128Kb sometimes cutoffs frequencies which results a loss of quality.

quote:
does anyone know of better software or how to get make it sound good? or is that just impossible with software?


Some people use frutiy loops, some Reason, try both and decide.
THIS SOUND WAS MADE WITH SOFTWARE !!!

If you want to learn how to get phater sounds come HERE

Trancevision

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mantisnl
luuk maes



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: holland

w00t! who made that `this was made with software` thing!!??
if u have an preset or summin.. cud u plz send?
thnx,

DJ Mantis


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Trancevision
MINDSOUNDSCAPES



Registered: Feb 2002
Location: Germany

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if u have an preset or summin.. cud u plz send?

I made this sound with Reason. I think about posting some of my sounds
at my post Exploration of sounds.
I hope that more people will deliver quality samples and presets like Cyrus 2k.

Trancevision

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Morbid
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Amsterdam

To make your synth sound bigger use a good chorus plugin or a good reverb and yes you can make a song sound as good as a commercial cd with software, it's all about your skills, learn to use your software properly. Although you got to use some good software.

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John
In Praise Of The Sun



Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Delft / Den Haag / Dordrecht,

i tried fruity loops before, but i think i like reason better..

and Trancevision could you pls repost that link? it isnt working anymore.
and omg this http://www.samplecity.net/forum/att...ttachmentid=509 sounds wicked... is this really made with software??

Morbid, are there plugins for reason? i used to have vsti plugins fot cubase but i didnt understand a thing of it

well i guess there's a lot to learn..anyone have a reason manual for me?


oh wait ive got one more question (for now then heheh) how can i import wavefiles into reason? is that possible??

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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vantaa

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oh wait ive got one more question (for now then heheh) how can i import wavefiles into reason? is that possible??


Insert it to NN-19... only really good for singleshots and stuff like that because it won't detect the BPM - therefore if you put a loop there you'd have to know its exact BPM so you can make it fit to the tune.

Alternatively you can use ReCycle to make your loops to REX files - then the BPM will be detected...


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Trancevision
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Registered: Feb 2002
Location: Germany

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is this really made with software??


Definetively yes.

quote:
and Trancevision could you pls repost that link?


The link is working.

Trancevision

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Eugene
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Maryland USA
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I feel like I have to reply to this post.

John, I agree with you completely -- if you use FruityLoops or some other software for writing music, you won't get very professional results. Simply put, these programs are toys. And even if you have the skills, using the software exclusively is a bad idea. I have yet to hear of any artist who got famous by writing tracks in FruityLoops, for example.

The way I look at it, music has to come from an instrument. This is a pretty traditional point of view, but it has withheld the test of time, and it's the one that works. If you want to have synths that are rich and "full," as opposed to some "thin-wire" crap; if you want to have professional and "warm" drums, as opposed to a crappy snare that sounds more like a kick; and if you actually want to achieve good results, you must go for hardware: keyboards and synths.

It will even be easier to use keyboards, I think. For example, if you want to get a nifty "rolling" bass effect, or a cascade build-up, or a complex arpeggio, there are buttons for that on the instrument that will get you there FASTER than a computer program. Often a computer program is severely limited, badly structured, and has bugs. What would you want to deal with this shit? So even experimenting is easier, and more fun, on a real-life keyboard!

In summary, I don't think FruityLoops or any other program has many redeeming values. And if you do decide to use one of those, make sure you're not relying exclusively on it! The primary source of music should come from the instrument; stuff like fx can be added on later. That's my opinion.


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mantisnl
luuk maes



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: holland

well.. i wanna add summin 2 that..

trancemaster uk (also here on TA) has an friend who is signed.. and he uses fruityloops... so.. i dont think that it isnt impossible..


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Morbid
tranceaddict in training



Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Amsterdam

I suggest you to use cubase or nuendo. It has this thing called rewire so that you can see you reason tracks appear in Cubase or nuendo and then you can add vst effects to it. Reason doesn't support any plugins, pretty shitty, but through rewire you can use reason like a plugin for cubase or nuendo and assign any effect to it

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