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Jocker
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Question why do they use crossfaders anyway...

hmm... never used it. the channel faders are giving me much more precision in operation. maybe you could tell a couple of tricks (really improving the mix) that i could do with x-fader, and not the channel faders?


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hapamoto
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Canoga Park, California

um... if u cut between tracks back and forth its much easier to do w/ the x-fader than w/ volume controls.. but i do this more w/ house and hard house than w/ trance.. i dunno, be creative and find your own use for the x-fader

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Jocker
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Registered: Feb 2001
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Originally posted by hapamoto
um... if u cut between tracks back and forth its much easier to do w/ the x-fader than w/ volume controls.. but i do this more w/ house and hard house than w/ trance.. i dunno, be creative and find your own use for the x-fader


i have already found: if i set the x-fader channels to the ones that are not currently playing, the sound will fade away if the x-fader is moved in either direction from the center, which makes the "fade-in - fade-out" thing much faster and can create a cool sound effect. but i doubt that noone else questions the usefullness of such a trick


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hapamoto
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hey man.. never doubt your creativity.. if you find out some cool tricks and shit, perfect them.. don't limit yourself!

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Great Outdoors
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Registered: Jan 2002
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It's an essential tool for scratchers and turntablists. I don't know too much about either to comment, but if you want the fading effect then it would probably come in handy; you know, instead of fading out one channel THEN fading in the other, the cross fader will accomplish the same task with more convenience and precision.


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DJTJ
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Registered: Jan 2001
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Exactly. You really need a crossfader for scratching - you try crabbing with a line fader!

As has been said, crossfaders are more useful in hip-hop/drum n bass than in house and trance, this is why many house-oriented clubs will have rotary mixers from Urei or Rane, whereas hip-hop clubs will have mixers with crossfaders.

Crossfaders are for tricks really, rather than creating smooth mixes.

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this is why many house-oriented clubs will have rotary mixers from Urei or Rane


DJTJ, what's a rotary mixer?


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Acid Circus
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Rotary just means that you don't have linear faders, but just like typical EQ's you have "knobs" which you rotate to change the level volume. I find this so much more comfortable as you can really get a smooth effect that cannot be matched using linear faders. Thats why I instinctivly go for the gain knobs before using the linear channel faders, I can get it so much smoother this way and then knock the rest of the volume off using the faders!

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Great Outdoors
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Rotary just means that you don't have linear faders, but just like typical EQ's you have "knobs" which you rotate to change the level volume. I find this so much more comfortable as you can really get a smooth effect that cannot be matched using linear faders. Thats why I instinctivly go for the gain knobs before using the linear channel faders, I can get it so much smoother this way and then knock the rest of the volume off using the faders!


I have linear volume faders on my mixer, but I keep them up on both channel all the time, only using the rotary knobs for mixing. I guess that should qualify my mixer as a rotary one too, huh.


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Michael Russo
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Registered: Mar 2002
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What mixer do u have? I've never heard of one with both knobs and faders for each channel......... or are u talking about the gain?

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hapamoto
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Registered: Jan 2002
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yes he is talking about the gain knob.. however on some mixers, the gain will not cut a track out completely.. meaning if u still have the volume all the way up for one track, u can still hear it even if the gain is all the way down, but you do get a smoother transition then if u were to solely use the volume fader to transition..

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Great Outdoors
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Registered: Jan 2002
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I'm not talking about the gain knobs, actually. I meant to say that when I mix, I turn the treble, mid and the bass knobs (the EQ knobs, in other words) all the way DOWN when I want to mute that channel, instead of shifting my linear volume slider. My volume slider is perpetually up all the way in both my channels.

So when I mix, I'm only touching the EQs on both channels and nothing else. It sounds wrong I know..


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