On multiple occasions in the business world I've heard people say "never trust a Russian." There are plenty of people who have yet to throw aside the cold war thinking.

Such a tunnel would be magnificent!

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anybody know what that white stuff on his mustache is??

Shevchenko's love slime?

but so far from chealsea?

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru anybody know what that white stuff on his mustache is??

the real way he made his billions: cocaine.

Abramovich is a focking idiot. Just like most of other Russian billionaires who illegally made their billions in the 1990s raping the country and stealing from the people. He spends hundreds of millions for stupid sports (no offense to Chelsea), yet not enough for Russian people, infrastructure, economy, etc.

Russia unfortunately will have problems for many years to come because no leader will be able to change it for good because of the massive bureaucracy and corruption - and no, I am not talking about returning to Yeltsinism or Gorbachev days - thats only a step back. And neither I am talking about going to communist days - I am talking about something rather Putin-like figure who can clamp down harder on corruption and mismanagement/abuse of many aspects of life in Russia.

Right now Abramovich is showing his stupidity but trying to "impress" with the size of a boring drill - wow, I am so totally impressed (not) - lets see how well it works. I am tired of the old Soviet mentality that quantity / size is better than quality. He should spend his money for more useful things.

EDIT: I am not very trusting of these oligarch Russians either. We'll talk when progress is made.

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Last edited by Magnetonium on Mar-30-2008 at 11:41

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Abramovich is a focking idiot. Just like most of other Russian billionaires who illegally made their billions in the 1990s raping the country and stealing from the people. He spends hundreds of millions for stupid sports (no offense to Chelsea), yet not enough for Russian people, infrastructure, economy, etc. Russia unfortunately will have problems for many years to come because no leader will be able to change it for good because of the massive bureaucracy and corruption - and no, I am not talking about returning to Yeltsinism or Gorbachev days - thats only a step back. And neither I am talking about going to communist days - I am talking about something rather Putin-like figure who can clamp down harder on corruption and mismanagement/abuse of many aspects of life in Russia. Right now Abramovich is showing his stupidity but trying to "impress" with the size of a boring drill - wow, I am so totally impressed (not) - lets see how well it works. I am tired of the old Soviet mentality that quantity / size is better than quality. He should spend his money for more useful things. EDIT: I am not very trusting of these oligarch Russians either. We'll talk when progress is made.

Lol would it have been possible for any poster to have missed the point of the OP any more than Magnetonium?!

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Originally posted by George Smiley Lol would it have been possible for any poster to have missed the point of the OP any more than Magnetonium?!

LOL, I get the point, George - which is EXACTLY the point that I've been making for many years - that Russia is trying to get closer to the West, democracy, build friendships and economic partnerships - while all this time often enough it gets slapped with humiliations and criticism.

Besides, Russian companies have invested a lot of money in European and North American companies. But only too often Russian companies get sidestepped because of media driven fear of Russians - for example, when Severstal's lucrative merger offer with Arcelor was turned down in favour of a more complicated Arcelor-Mittal one. Thats just one of many examples.

This tunnel is just another of countless Russian attempts to steer towards democracy and one economic front. But we'll see where it will actually lead. In the end it might only cost a lot of money and might not even live up to the proposed benefits - is it really that expensive to ship goods across Atlantic for EU?

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