Trance = Beatless break + lush saw pad + "aah" choir + saw lead with low pass filter that opens up before the beat comes back in. Maybe throw a nice plinky piano or guitar / guitar-like synth in there for good measure.

That's what trance is, right?

You might think so, judging by what some producers do. I bring this up because I looked at this thread:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...02&forumid=1&s=

Not having heard anything by Static Blue, I listened to all the Beatport samples of tracks and remixes by Static Blue. Not one deviated from "the formula." If somebody decided to check out trance and happened to listen to this stuff, I might forgive him for thinking that all trance "sounds the same," because this stuff really does. It's like some producers received some kind of limited versions of DAWs and synths that won't let you deviate very far from the same twenty or so presets (and that's being generous).

And yet so many people lap it up. Why?

Almost all rock, rap, R&B, and pop songs are born out of a repeated formula as well... and it gets eaten up like candy. It's not just trance.

People like what they like.

"aah" choir + saw lead

thats the shit that does it for me. "chanting trance" ftw. yes i made that genre up.

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I'd have to agree that most genres offer us music in the form of some type of "formula". Perhaps we gravitate towards this because our brains are so good at picking out patterns. In general, I think, we gravitate towards things that are familiar and predictable. I have no studies or links to back this up, of course, so take all that with the appropriate sized grain of salt.

Last edited by Zoso on Aug-03-2007 at 13:38

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Originally posted by Zoso I'd have to agree that most genres offer us music in the form of some type of "formula". Perhaps we gravitate towards this because our brains our so good at picking out patterns. In general, I think, we gravitate towards things that are familiar and predictable. I have no studies or links to back this up, of course, so take all that with the appropriate sized grain of salt.

Yes. Many people feel comfortable when listening to familiar sounding music. It's the same thing with any other environment we move in; once we're in a place we perfectly know, we feel better.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Trance = Beatless break + lush saw pad + "aah" choir + saw lead with low pass filter that opens up before the beat comes back in. Maybe throw a nice plinky piano or guitar / guitar-like synth in there for good measure. That's what trance is, right? You might think so, judging by what some producers do. I bring this up because I looked at this thread: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...02&forumid=1&s= Not having heard anything by Static Blue, I listened to all the Beatport samples of tracks and remixes by Static Blue. Not one deviated from "the formula." If somebody decided to check out trance and happened to listen to this stuff, I might forgive him for thinking that all trance "sounds the same," because this stuff really does. It's like some producers received some kind of limited versions of DAWs and synths that won't let you deviate very far from the same twenty or so presets (and that's being generous). And yet so many people lap it up. Why?

Perhaps for the same reason that people continue to make formulaic threads about how shit trance is these days?

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Originally posted by Beat Blog Perhaps for the same reason that people continue to make formulaic threads about how shit trance is these days?

touche

yeah i don't know how the same things keep getting signed over and over

circle jerk?

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Originally posted by nefardec yeah i don't know how the same things keep getting signed over and over circle jerk?

well one thing to consider is that producers are commodities just like dj's. the label only wants to invest money in something thats marketable just like any other product. if the masses are buying, the label will keep providing from the same batch of cookies.

i guess this says more about the masses than the labels, because no one seems to have respect for their ears or legs anymore do they? only their fists...

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Originally posted by SPAWNmaster the label only wants to invest money in something thats marketable just like any other product. if the masses are buying, the label will keep providing from the same batch of cookies.

indeed.

money is awesome (or so i hear)

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well one thing to consider is that producers are commodities just like dj's. the label only wants to invest money in something thats marketable just like any other product. if the masses are buying, the label will keep providing from the same batch of cookies.

haha, i meant that more as a rhetorical question.


i think you're right it says more about the consumers than the producers.


if the consumers were on the cultural edge, then surely the labels would have to release more 'culturally edgy' music