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SPANIARD
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The 'Progressive' evolution... finally some music talk?

About a month ago, there was a thread posted (here) that was in regards to the resurection of progressive. I may have made a smart ass remark in that thread, but I chose not to expand my thoughts in that thread because I think there is a larger issue at hand than 'progressive' coming back in to trend (which I still believe it isn't).

To my understanding, progressive, is always refered to in the 4/4 community as stuff that DJ's like Sasha, Digweed, Warren etc played from the mid 90's to approx 2004. It was evident that due to the amount of diversity in the sets that it could not be summarized as just house, just trance, just tribal... but it maintained a very similar tempo. These were really good times. I wish it could come back, but I'm also realistic.

From around 2003-2005, alot of DJ's mentioned above slowly changed their DJing directions into lower tempo's and only played sets that were from 1 or 2 subgenres... minimal and techhouse. I realize that not every single set from those same DJ's play exclusively tracks from those subgenre's, but nobody is fooled when you say they play the same stuff today as they did back then. Alot of people love to hear this type of music and this is in no way a critique of your musical tastes.

This brings me to the real point and in some way relates to what I would have said in that previous thread...what happened to the people who didn't catch onto the minimal/tech trend? Did they start listening to dubstep? The answer is no, but the genre of progressive has definetely evolved IMO, trendy today or not. There are lots of DJ's/producers that have made great strides in the past couple of years attempting to ressurect those great feelings in a very intellegent, interesting way. They incorporate elements of tribal, vocal house, driving trance, even hints of psy... but always dark and never a dull moment.

Proof you say? Well, I'd like everyone who thinks I'm full of shit or wants a clearer idea of what I'm trying to say to listen to this set. [[ LINK REMOVED ]]

These are 3 guys from Argentina (Kintar & Rex, Maindave) who have had their radio show on frisky radio for some time now. They spin a blend of about 4 subgenres of house & trance, but it always has a progressive feel to it. It's what I'd want as a fan to hear Digweed, Seaman, Sasha etc play today if they had not gone in the direction they did. Wishful thinking for sure, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Lastely, I'd like to say that this thread is an excuse to get some discussion goingon music. I know alot of people browse these forums without posting because of some of the stupid shit that is posted, but I encourage you to speak up on this subject or just anything at all. I also want to say that my understanding of things may not necessarily be fact, so if you want to be a smart ass and bring in wikipedia definitions etc... don't bother, you win.


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some of the most unique/interesting prog i've listened to these days is jim rivers... i suggest checking out his transitions guest mix.. he just seems to use alternative melodies our ears aren't used to


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progressive is not in itself a type of music but rather a quality which can be attributed to a number of styles like progressive house, progressive trance, progressive psy trance etc. I am not a BIG specialist on progressive but in my understanding progressive feeling can be achieved by reduction of builds and putting emphasis on the atmospheric feeling of the track. However, imo i associate progressive with more melodic stuff, just those melodies are more spaced out, background and have less cheesy builds than reg. trance melodies.

I dont agree witht the statement that progressive was out of fashion and now is coming back big time. IMO it was never really underground or dead and there was always a number artists that play it and make it etc. Only because sasha or digweed or warren played less of it doesnt mean anything (esp those 3 cause theey arent that good ). The world of music is much much broader than just a few big names.

Of course, for obivous reasons, when minimal/tech trends developed the popularity of progressive dropped.

IMO I dont think progressive became trendy recently and dont think it will become really big again in future. But i dont think it will die either because it has its niche - the people who value the atmosphere in music.

ps. ben one day u will convert to minimal/techhauz

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quote:
Originally posted by DaRoZa
some of the most unique/interesting prog i've listened to these days is jim rivers... i suggest checking out his transitions guest mix.. he just seems to use alternative melodies our ears aren't used to


I have over played this... its soo good.

Im not a huge prog fan, but theres something about Jim Rivers..

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i love prog always have... never went through stages. i just find its always related well to my musical background (piano/violin since i was 4). yes ive jumped on numerous band wagons... ex. electro, minimal, techno, whatever else. but i always have kept on top of prog the best i could. every 3rd/4th cd in my cd binder is prog. plus with so many sub-genres of prog, its hard not to like it for ex. tribal


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how did Goa-trance die out? I wish it made a comeback lol

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SPANIARD
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ps. ben one day u will convert to minimal/techhauz

Well I don't HATE it now, I just find less stuff that I like in comparison with other subgenres.

Goa Trance... well... I'd let basilik or someone else to start that thread .


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Progressive this....Eclipse 2008!


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