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toxa
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Strong Island, NYC

I noticed that many djs have their own strategies about making a set, but I have a few questions. I have downloaded many songs that people recommended on this site, and well they are sort of "quiet". Dont get me wrong, I have total respect for those artists and songs, one being pvd himself. But a few times when I have dropped a few "quiet" songs, like that new madonna song from ultra2k, I get most of the crowd going to sit down, or sarcastically telling me to play something they can dance to. Some examples of these "quiet" songs, are stuff from pvd's albums, tiesto's stuff, and anything that wont get them dancing their asses off. Im a little confused, can someone set me strait.


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TraNceFaN
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: C.C.C.P.
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I am not a DJ at all,but I do understand what u mean by 'quiet' songs.May be crowd wants harder stuff like Johan Gielen or say Picotto spin?
I'll just let the others explain it to u...
Take care.

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Thor
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Calgary or Iceland.....
Question Great Question

I was wondering the same thing myself, maybe its the lack of knowladge by the average clubber in North America about Trance... I mean look at all the Europeans go crazy when the quiet parts kick in, because they know whats coming

I've often thought that being a DJ here you really have to sacrifice some of the music you love to appease the less knowladgeable crowds in NA, its so sad to see even a more Trancy club play top 40, R&B, Hip-pop, etc... Just to appease to crowds...

I truly believe from what I have seen that any DJ's in NA probably don't play exactly what they would like because of the crowds they play for.. Hope that makes sense

Cheers,

Thor......

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Thor
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Calgary or Iceland.....
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I think a prime example of something that would do badly in a north american crowd would be that set that Rank 1 did at trance energy, check out the video here on TA..... The crowd goes mad in quiet parts, chanting, yelling, just having a blast...

I just can't see that happening if you were to replace that entire crowd with NAmericans

Cheers,

Thor.....

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lexiconavenue
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Anywhere

I agree with Thor. It seems most Americans go clubbing to dance, strictly for the rush...not to actually hear and feel the music.


Hope that makes some sort of sense
Regards
Lexi

Last edited by lexiconavenue on Mar-27-2001 at 06:34

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breakdown
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quiet "beatless" music... is often played to balance the crowd out.. although individually, they might not work well with a crowd.. if ya good.. u know exactly when to drop them.. i don't know how to explain when.. but at certain times.. the crowd just wants ta like float away... thats the moment when a 'quiet' track comes in..
to relate.. its basically taking the 'groove' in any song.. extend it.. and there ya go..


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biznology
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I think it can be done in NA but you better be ready to get things moving again quickly. If the fans really appreciate the music they wil go crazy, but if they don't get something else on there quickly. Plus if they dont like the quiet parts they won't realize you do something stupid like throwing on another record too quickly. Ugh...I think I just told you to pull a Dj Skribble. I sincerely apologize. But in a way its true. Just watch the crowd and play to them, which might not be your perfect idea of what a dj set should be. peas.


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lexiconavenue
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Registered: Mar 2001
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Well put, Biz...had the same idea, but mangled it beyond recognition.

Regards
Lexi

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Twilogoddess
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Registered: Jan 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by lexiconavenue
I agree with Thor. It seems most Americans go clubbing to dance, strictly for the rush...not to actually hear and feel the music.
Lexi

Thats bullshit. In NYC, We go to Twilo to hear the muzik & then to dance.

DJXtronic, Pvd's album isn't a dancing compliation. Most DJ's don't put what they play live on albums. & When Pvd drops For an Angel, Another Way, Out There & Back, Face to Face, Together We will Conquer the crowd goes wild.

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agi
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Registered: Nov 2000
Location: N. Ireland

Hey i was reading this likle learn to beatmix thing on the internet the other day , and it was confusing as fuck and really of no use, but it had this kinda tips thing, and it had one tip that just when the crowd are really starting to get into the stuff your playing and the dancefloor is packed, get the lighting guy to when you say cut the lights. When he does this you stop the turntable thast playing. Then, supposedly, everyone will think there's a powercut or you fucked up or something, and then suddenly BANG you thump the lights back up and play something really mental, and it should drive the place crazy.

I think this could sound unbelievably shit if it was mistimed, or could be quite good. What ya's think


Anyways, peace


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Nastra Azzurro
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Registered: Jan 2001
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I think if u fucked up your set already you might as well go for it. But if your set has been tight and without (m)any mistakes. I wouldnt do it. You the could fuck up a perfectly good set.
I your good at that little trick, do it anytime you want if your confident and sure you can pull it off.


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lexiconavenue
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Anywhere

quote:
Originally posted by Twilogoddess

Thats bullshit. In NYC, We go to Twilo to hear the muzik & then to dance.

DJXtronic, Pvd's album isn't a dancing compliation. Most DJ's don't put what they play live on albums. & When Pvd drops For an Angel, Another Way, Out There & Back, Face to Face, Together We will Conquer the crowd goes wild.


Easy there, Twilo. DJX was simply stating an opion [a damned good one, at that!!], one we are all entitled to.

The message I'm trying to convey is 78.968% of Americans like the regular lame-ass commercial dance tracks, and the UK is 78.968 underground. Sound better?? :P




Lexi

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