ill have a look into it when i get the time, love a good balanced documentary

NICE...watchin it now...

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I wrote about al-Libi's torture in Egypt, which gave the Bush admin the "intelligence" that Saddam had trained Al-Qaida in chemical/biological weapons...

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(Alleged Al-Qaeda Relationship) ........... The CIA later came out in August 2004 stating (Strobel, Landay, Walcott, 2004), “There is no conclusive evidence that the regime harbored Osama bin Laden associate Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi.” The fact is the relationship between Saddam Hussein and Al-Qaeda affiliates is extremely doubtful at best. In fact, the source of the Zarqawi-Saddam connection was Al-Qaeda leader Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi who was viewed as untrustworthy by US intelligence. This specific piece of intelligence he provided was under very questionable circumstances as he was in the detention of Egyptian authorities at the time, a country known to use torture. The information al-Libi provided under harsh treatment could not be counted on as creditable intelligence. In a November 2005 Newsweek article, two US counter-terrorism officials said they believed Colon Powell had obtained the information about supposed Iraqi involvement with Zarqawi and Al-Iraqi exclusively from Egyptian-held al-Libi. The evidence provided to the Security Council about Iraqi ties to Al-Qaeda is still unfounded to this day.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=432268&highlight=retrospective

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Last edited by Krypton on May-07-2008 at 02:50

Cheers for this one PKC. Saw it advertised but I'm an early starter so didn't see it. Did however see the earlier show on Hamas. Thought that was pretty interesting.

SBS shows some good stuff. They showed Taxi To The Dark Side last year when I was living in Melbourne. Way ahead of any Oscars.

It was part of their Democracy-somthing-something series which had a high quality through out

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I didn't exactly learn anything new here as I've been posting about this shit for years. A lot of the psychological torture techniques and sexual humilation tactics are mkultra 101 minus the drugs. I'm guessing future terrorist attacks are going to be 9-11 ten fold. They haven't even fucking mentioned the sexual torture of children and raping women yet. A complete fucking whitewash. This is far from "balanced" you disingenuos politically correct fucks.

P.S. Other dogs that should be muzzled are these piece of shit military savages. [EDIT] Plus a long list of people in the execute branch and high ranking military and intelligence officers. Can somebody muzzle Bush too so we don't have to listen to his retarded responses and ramblings? While we're at it, somebody muzzle Dick Fucking Cheney too. And send him on another hunting trip with all the criminals in the white house and military... and blindfold the motherfucking Dick [Cheney]... so he hopefully shoots every single one of these fucks... I mean birds... in the face.

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z I didn't exactly learn anything new here as I've been posting about this shit for years. A lot of the psychological torture techniques and sexual humilation tactics are mkultra 101 minus the drugs. I'm guessing future terrorist attacks are going to be 9-11 ten fold. They haven't even fucking mentioned the sexual torture of children and raping women yet. A complete fucking whitewash. This is far from "balanced" you disingenuos politically correct fucks. P.S. Other dogs that should be muzzled are these piece of shit military savages. [EDIT] Plus a long list of people in the execute branch and high ranking military and intelligence officers. Can somebody muzzle Bush too so we don't have to listen to his retarded responses and ramblings? While we're at it, somebody muzzle Dick Fucking Cheney too. And send him on another hunting trip with all the criminals in the white house and military... and blindfold the motherfucking Dick [Cheney]... so he hopefully shoots every single one of these fucks... I mean birds... in the face.

have you ever sought anger management?

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 have you ever sought anger management?

Haha, I'm pissed off as fuck these days yes . And the fact that I'm not doing any qi gung or meditation doesn't help... [edit] but all the crap that's going on these days.... and has been for a while should piss off anybody with a shred of decency and humanity left in them.

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Haha, I'm pissed off as fuck these days yes . And the fact that I'm not doing any qi gung or meditation doesn't help... [edit] but all the crap that's going on these days.... and has been for a while should piss off anybody with a shred of decency and humanity left in them.

bush will be gone soon enough.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 bush will be gone soon enough.

But will his administrations legislative legacy and their blatantly unconstitutional methods go with him?

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z I didn't exactly learn anything new here as I've been posting about this shit for years. A lot of the psychological torture techniques and sexual humilation tactics are mkultra 101 minus the drugs. I'm guessing future terrorist attacks are going to be 9-11 ten fold. They haven't even fucking mentioned the sexual torture of children and raping women yet. A complete fucking whitewash. This is far from "balanced" you disingenuos politically correct fucks.

got any proof that the sexual torture of children and raping of women were a systemic part of the war on terror? do you have any reason to include such cases in a documentary about institutionalised treatment condoned by the pointy end of the pentagon or white house?

or are you merely crying foul because the doco wasn't nearly batshit crazy or over the top enough?

i didnt learn anything particularly new either, however it was still an excellent doco.

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