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Bush Gets a Chilly Response from Saudi Arabia on Oil Production

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RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - The White House said Friday that Saudi Arabia's leaders are making clear they see no reason to increase oil production until customers demand it.

President Bush was in the oil-rich country to appeal to King Abdullah for greater production to help halt rising gas prices in the United States.

But his national security adviser, Stephen Hadley, said Saudi officials stuck to their position that they already are meeting demand.

Hadley told reporters, "What they're saying to us is ... Saudi Arabia does not have customers that are making requests for oil that they are not able to satisfy."

When Bush met Abdullah in mid-January, the president also asked Saudi Arabia to raise production to ease high prices at the pump. But he got a chilly response to that plea. The kingdom said it would increase production only when the market justified it, and that production levels appeared normal.

Oil prices climbed to a new high Friday, above $127 a barrel. At the pump, gas prices rose to a national average of $3.78 per gallon, according to a survey of stations by AAA and the Oil Price Information Service.

Out of public view
When Air Force One landed in the Saudi capital, the president got a red carpet welcome on the tarmac and was warmly greeted by Saudi leaders as a military band played the U.S. national anthem, slightly off-key.

Bush was spending the day with Abdullah at his horse farm outside Riyadh, talking mostly out of public view over three tea services and two meals.

The White House says the president's visit is intended, in part, to celebrate 75 years of formal U.S.-Saudi relations. It will mark the conclusion of several agreements, laying out intentions to cooperate on nuclear energy, infrastructure protection and nonproliferation. But the rising price of oil overshadowed the talks.

Bush acknowledges that raising output is difficult because the demand for oil — particularly from China and India — is stretching supplies. Besides, any production hike might not lower prices that much. Some economists say those prices are being driven up by increased demand, not slowed production.

When Bush first ran for president in 2000, he criticized the Clinton administration for high fuel prices and said the president must "jawbone" oil producing nations and persuade them to drop rates. At that time, oil was nearing $28 a barrel.

Bush's visit to Saudi Arabia, which has the world's largest supply of oil, comes two days after Congress voted to temporarily halt daily shipments of 70,000 barrels of oil to the nation's emergency reserve. Bush has refused to stop pouring oil into the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, saying the stockpile was meant for emergencies and that halting the shipments would have little or no impact on gasoline or crude oil prices.

It's a move that Democrats have sought for the past year to increase supply and apply downward pressure on prices. With an eye to the November election, the Senate sent the measure to the president Wednesday night without a single GOP objection. The White House has indicated that Bush will sign the reserve measure.

Also, as Bush prepared to leave Washington, Senate Democrats introduced a resolution that would block $1.4 billion in arms sales to Saudi Arabia unless Riyadh agrees to increase its oil production by 1 million barrels per day. The Democrats said they introduced the measure to coincide with Bush's trip to send a message to Saudi Arabia that it should pump more oil to reduce the cost of gas for Americans.

High energy costs are a major drain on the U.S. economy, which is experiencing a slowdown that some think is already a recession. Oil prices are nearly $125 a barrel and gasoline threatens to go to $4 a gallon this summer.

'Good manners'
Anthony Cordesman, a security analyst for the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said Abdullah may produce something "simply because it's good manners," but nothing that would have a significant effect.

"U.S. influence over OPEC and Gulf oil production is diminished," he said. "It's not clear what the incentive is to Saudi Arabia. We can't deliver on (Mideast) peace. We can't deliver on arms transfers. We can't deliver on the Iraq that Saudi Arabia wants. We are raising problems in terms of Iran. And the reality is the market isn't being driven by us; it's being driven by China, by India, by rising Asian demand."

Jon Alterman, director of the CSIS' Middle East program, said the Saudis, with a public that doesn't like Bush and a ruling monarchy with growing interests elsewhere, are not likely "to put themselves out to help this president."

"The Saudis don't have an alternative to keeping the U.S. in its corner, but their reliance on the United States, their confidence in the United States is extremely shaken," Alterman said.

Besides wanting to discuss oil, Bush is paying his second visit to Abdullah this year — on top of a stop by Vice President Dick Cheney in Saudi Arabia in March — to talk about his goal of achieving an Israeli-Palestinian peace deal before he leaves office. Saudi Arabia's immense power in the region means that its backing of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and any concessions he will have to make is key.

The Saudi-American relationship began in the 1940s with a simple bargain: Saudi Arabia offered oil in return for U.S. protection. The United States became the kingdom's biggest trading partner and the Saudis became the biggest buyers of U.S. weapons. Many Saudis sent their children to American schools.

But over the years, issues arose.

Saudis, like other Arabs, feel Washington leans unfairly to Israel's side in the dispute with the Palestinians.

And Saudi-U.S. ties took their hardest hit after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, in which 15 the 19 airline hijackers were Saudis. Americans blamed Saudis for allowing the religious extremism that gave rise to the hijackers. Though anti-terror cooperation has been relatively strong since, Saudis still smart from what they feel are unfair accusations.


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Suspend speculative trading of brent crude oil and world's food crisis, inflation problem and rising oil prices problem gets solved.

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The problem is definitely not with Saudi Arabia, or at least not from what I've been reading. As Kinezi and many others have pointed out, speculators are driving the price of oil insanely high.

I did however read some encouraging/promising news in regards to 2010. That's the year some companies like VW will be releasing cars that can do 230 miles per gallon. I think there's another company that'll be introducing a car at 300 miles per gallon.
Even if gas prices were to jump to $8 per gallon, and even if the above mentioned new cars will be more expensive then my current Mazda 3, they'll likely still end up saving us all a lot of money.

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Originally posted by CHRles


I did however read some encouraging/promising news in regards to 2010. That's the year some companies like VW will be releasing cars that can do 230 miles per gallon. I think there's another company that'll be introducing a car at 300 miles per gallon.


This reply often makes me think that actually this high price of oil is actually good for us.. as it forces automobiles companies to look for alternate and better technologies.. lets get oil to 200 dollars / barrel and switch to cleaner sources. There is no holy grail.. even when speculators and oil companies are pushing oil prices high.. they are digging their own grave by forcing us to look fir other alternatives!

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President Bush wants a bailout is basically what's going on. He and his oil buddies have to appease the political griping going on over inflation in oil prices SOMEHOW. Glad to see Saudi Arabia cares more about market economics than politics when it comes to oil production.


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Originally posted by Kinezi
This reply often makes me think that actually this high price of oil is actually good for us.. as it forces automobiles companies to look for alternate and better technologies.. lets get oil to 200 dollars / barrel and switch to cleaner sources. There is no holy grail.. even when speculators and oil companies are pushing oil prices high.. they are digging their own grave by forcing us to look fir other alternatives!


Unfortunately we are digging our graves with CO2 emissions.

It's not just about money all the time.

If you're dead, there is no acclimated standard of living to attempt to propagate. =P

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