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69 KrAzY G 69
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What is Trance Made of?

K well latlley ive been djin alot and i wanna get into production like as in making tracks. I havent even got close to djin trance yet cuz the beatz arent matchin in my head. I just wanna know what is it made of. Like euro has its beat which is 1,2,3,4 and its regular cheesy crap so tell me what is trance made up of i need the basics. Plz refrain from remarks such as calling me a idiot, im just asking cuz i wann know.


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ZENtiiz
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Netherlands

Basic Trance music has 4 Club Beats which might have some lowpass and a phat bass of any style coming on the second eight of a bar. Most of the type these basses start swelling up in the beginning of the bar so you get this kind of bass pattern

code:
/\ /\ /\ /\ / \/ \/ \/ \


and the beats just fall on the lowest points of this bass line.. get it?
usually make bass lines with TS404, you can basically make everything with that baby anyway

then we have a few choices, the more standard trance has low and high pads, probaly filling up about your whole hearing range at least midlow. You can also put some TS404 in midlow. I like the (more hard trance) way of just filling every bar with 16 TS404 notes, that gives a very paranoid effect in combination with a lot of REVERB which makes the sound twist in stereo. But as I say filling whole bars with notes isn't the way of making basic, relaxing trance music. The best way is using strings.
Then we also have high notes which we can make using nice TS404 patterns, and we make sure we play with cutoff for good swellings and stuff like that ...

More about the rhytm. Trance most of the time has open hi-hat 4 times in a bar on every 2nd eight so you get this

code:
_+_+_+_+


with the + being the open hi-hat. You might strongly concider adding a closed highad on the _. You might also concider changing the pattern for the last note.

The more basic trance stuff is 2 hand claps, or snares, in a the bar on the 2nd quarter and 4th quarter.

Use reverb, it makes a lot of difference, ecspecaially don't ever forget to reverbate those strings a LOT...

From then you can go a lot of sides, you can make paranoid agressive basic TS404 sounds on steady basses creating uplifting. You can use pads on smooth basslines creating softer trance, perhabs good to take vocals in that, or you can just make heavy basses with heavy upswelling bass and not much but powerfull dark and reverbating sounds creating hard-trance.

I personally like some good percussion, bongo's RULE!!!

One thing that's really a lot harder on trance then on techno is that on trance you need a lot of strange fades to make it interesting, with techno you can actually keep the beat going for minutes without dissapointing people.

Ecspecially in uplifting segments I find it hard not to make stuff boring...


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Old Post May-24-2002 23:08  Netherlands
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attacc
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Registered: Apr 2002
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Trust your ears. Learning by doing

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Joi Lamusic
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Helsinki

Try to find some trance midis. That may help.

Here some links:
http://dance-link.com/categories.as...goryFilter=Midi
http://www.technomidi.com/mach/tech...s=50&perpage=25

And this might be the best site...At least what I know when it comes to trance midis

http://www.angelfire.com/music2/nonstop2000/midi_trance.html

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dj dimwit
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Registered: Feb 2002
Location: Woerden, Netherlands

quote:
usually make bass lines with TS404, you can basically make everything with that baby anyway


WOW! Can you teach me? I use Fruity, but I don't understand the TS404..... Some of the presets are good, but how to make a cool bassline myself???


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DJ Teknique
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Baltimore, USA

quote:
Originally posted by dj dimwit


Some of the presets are good, but how to make a cool bassline myself???

u fuck with it till u get it


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ZENtiiz
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Netherlands

Teknique said that perfectly.. mess around with the thing, most important for the bassline is to make it not sound TOO RAW.. I usually start of with the raw BEE preset btw cause it kicks ass and then change some nobs hehe have fun
just change every nob you see only watch out with PW and CRS cause that changes the tone so you possibly might have something sounding very FALSE


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Joi Lamusic
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Dunno

Stupid guestion... But what is PW and CRS in 404??? I didn't find any knobs named like that Help...

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Joi Lamusic
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Sorry...Stupid me. I think I didn't look hard enough Well, now I know where is the PW and CRS knobs

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