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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

every single non trance event..the opener is either milo or dino..seriously are there no more djs here?
how do you want new talent to get exposed?
by doing localized? which noone gives a shit about?

im not saying its a bad booking choice (both are good djs) but maybe some varaiaty for a change.. give someone else a chance...
both can get any booking anywhere if they want..after all being music director for a club will gain you that privilage..

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Originally posted by peteone every single non trance event..the opener is either milo or dino..seriously are there no more djs here? how do you want new talent to get exposed? by doing localized? which noone gives a shit about? im not saying its a bad booking choice (both are good djs) but maybe some varaiaty for a change.. give someone else a chance... both can get any booking anywhere if they want..after all being music director for a club will gain you that privilage..

drunk and pissed off?

If you look back and analyze the Chicago club scene for the last 10 years you will see that this is a standard here. Back in the day of the infamous "P" promotion group using the same favorite djs to open for headliners was a norm. Now it's Dino (a very good DJ) and Milo (don't know him). It's who you know bro, not necessarily how you play. Before "Localized" the was the "Future Sound Of Chicago". I agree that this local talent show is not really designed to promote the djs but to ensure a good turnout by motivating the local djs to call their friends to come out and support.

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Originally posted by Observator It's who you know bro, not necessarily how you play.

And it's always going to be that way.

I honestly don't know what you're trying to accomplish here, Pete. First and foremost, there really aren't a ton of "big" non-trance shows drawing large crowds right now, so it isn't as if there are a ton of bookings to be handed out. Beyond that, Spybar just reopened (and has plenty of non-Dino and non-Milo openers booked for the rest of the Summer), and outside of Vision and Spy, there are plenty of nights out there to catch both non-trance and non-Milo and Dino events.

Even if there really was a market for a ton of non-trance shows, I wouldn't expect either Milo and Dino to pay money for talent that isn't making any return for them.

I imagine there's a reason the lineup for Vision for the next two months is dominated by trance and commercial prog: it fills the place. At the end of the day, both of these fellows jobs is to make money, not to please local DJ's.

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Originally posted by RJT And it's always going to be that way. I honestly don't know what you're trying to accomplish here, Pete. First and foremost, there really aren't a ton of "big" non-trance shows drawing large crowds right now, so it isn't as if there are a ton of bookings to be handed out. Beyond that, Spybar just reopened (and has plenty of non-Dino and non-Milo openers booked for the rest of the Summer), and outside of Vision and Spy, there are plenty of nights out there to catch both non-trance and non-Milo and Dino events. Even if there really was a market for a ton of non-trance shows, I wouldn't expect either Milo and Dino to pay money for talent that isn't making any return for them. I imagine there's a reason the lineup for Vision for the next two months is dominated by trance and commercial prog: it fills the place. At the end of the day, both of these fellows jobs is to make money, not to please local DJ's.

I want to give some people reality check, i dont see anyone starting a topic like that in years..chicago edm scene is dying out...

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Originally posted by Observator I agree that this local talent show is not really designed to promote the djs but to ensure a good turnout by motivating the local djs to call their friends to come out and support.

both of you are absolutelly right. "who you know"
its also about "how i can make money out of you, get your friends to pay full cover and pay you $50 for playing"

Observator - i know the last 10 years it was exactly like you said,

Pure at the time had Curly, Prasad, and Lauer( who personaly i think is a great and so underrated dj in chicago).
Because of the whole "money situation" John and Jay got "removed" and James was whole another story, and ended up at smartbar (well right now RedNo5 (go james! wish you all the sucess with new "The End")
Pure was probably the best thing that happened to this city when it comes to the scene - great shows, lineups etc. Not a lot of commercial shit. Too bad they fucked up so much at the end.

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Originally posted by peteone Pure was probably the best thing that happened to this city when it comes to the scene - great shows, lineups etc. Not a lot of commercial shit. Too bad they fucked up so much at the end.

i'd beg to differ about pure...there was also spundae/GK and other promoters that have made the scene in chicago what it is today

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Originally posted by dcctnycprincess i'd beg to differ about pure...there was also spundae/GK and other promoters that have made the scene in chicago what it is today

And at least towards the end (not super familiar with the whole Pure situation) they weren't exactly booking a diverse lineup of openers either (John & Jay were definitely the regulars).

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Well, let's go way back in time then. Pure used book Chris Walsh and Chad Sommer exclusively in the late 90's and early 00's. I was pushing quality underground progressive house 6 hours a week on 92.7 & 5FM on "Clubland Underground" and then on Sonic Boom on Q101 and it was still difficult to land a gig. Albeit, they did throw me a few bones and I got to play with the big boys of the GU fame. Throw your own parties and headline your own shows. That's how I got to do it for the last 10 years here. You know that. I know, promoting sucks

no reason to ever question dino on the events he plays or casts dispersions about the way he books his talent.
milo as well.

this thread is out of order. there are a million djs. anyone who wants to be noticed, the onus is on them to create a product that makes a promoter or music director notice them. no one in chicago has ever been handing out gigs. people work with people they fundamentally trust especially on prestige bookings/less financially viable nights.

if anything i think dino doesn't play enough considering it's his club, and the amount of time and energy he puts into the place and that it's his $ on the line.

I saw Rob open for Blizzard at Vision. I have no idea what that guy played but it certainly wasn't trance.

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Originally posted by lucid pro tip: if you value your life, NEVER do anything that will place you "outside" of the jonze circle of trust.