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infectedskills
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Smiley DJ EDM Vs. hiphop/rap who will win

Hey what going on ta I had a conversation with some gurl at a bar last and we where talking about music and said I listen to edm and she played dumb like what that is and I said trance music, house and all sub genres and she was trying to say that music like that sucked rap music was better she was a white gurl to..... Here what I say put your vote and opinion inabout djs and rapper that can't rap..........

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DJ_Lord
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dude i have no idea what you just said...

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dude i have no idea what you just said...


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Re: EDM Vs. hiphop/rap who will win

quote:
Originally posted by infectedskills
Hey what going on ta I had a conversation with some gurl at a bar last and we where talking about music and said I listen to edm and she played dumb like what that is and I said trance music, house and all sub genres and she was trying to say that music like that sucked rap music was better she was a white gurl to..... Here what I say put your vote and opinion inabout djs and rapper that can't rap..........



dude, and you askin that on EDM forum?

PS... avoid posting befor sobering up.


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mar46017
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Unfortunately for some reason Hip Hop dominates the top of the charts in the U.S.

A typical bar or parties default genre is hip hop/top 40. Go anywhere else in the world and the default genre is house/EDM.


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I'm going to refrain from posting in this thread and probably won't read it again. Because I will only get angry.


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Re: EDM Vs. hiphop/rap who will win

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Originally posted by infectedskills
she played dumb like what that is and I said trance music


How dare she?
You should have smacked her for such insolence.


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The Vza
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Well... I rap. I have been rapping for like, 7 years or something like that. I have a music video, a pretty decent swagger, I even met with the CEO of Ultra Records to discuss a deal. All this happened before I started listening to EDM. I didn't even know shit about Ultra when I went there... imagine my utter jaw dropping when I started getting into electronic and realizing who I had met with. Ultra has a hip-hop label under it and Pat Moxey, the CEO said that his door is open again to me if I can come back with tighter production and more videos. Basically, they MIGHT be willing to do distribution and promotion if I can get the production aspects done myself...

being that I have this unique view of being on TA and loving everything that goes with it AND having somewhat made a small mark in the rap game, I feel like I can answer your question quite fully...

the reason that rap/hip-hop/RB whatever you want to call it, dominates the US charts, is because it was born, raised, and expanded in America for one thing. Whereas although Detroit is where its at as far as EDM goes, it's been perfected in Europe more, imo. maybe I'm wrong...

The american public is more familiar with the RB of old, ie the motown sound and the blues, etc. The orginal/true hip-hop culture was born out of that. DJing, bboying, graffiti, and the MC were the four components. That shit is cool and appealed on a large scale to many many people. Even though it was born out of the angst of urban life in the late 70's and 80's, it represented a new and sometimes forbidden culture to non-afro american youth in the 90's, Towards the late 90's is where I see it turning pop... not pop like Michael Jackson was pop, but pop like Brittney Spears pop. Basically, because it was already popular, record execs knew they could manufacture and sell a product, call it music, and push it on the radio to teens and tweens.

i think the reason EDM never took off like that in America was because it had the stigma of being exclusively underground. Also, lets face it, a lot of people in the 'rave' scene of old were a bunch of wierdos. Plus the fact that the US is overall very homophobic and hateful of gays, and EDM has in some cases been linked to being gay music (my friends called me a fag for listening to trance, until i gave them pills... next thing I knew they were crawling on the floor with pacifiers in theirs mouths thanking me). PLUS, the whole drug-relation with EDM throws people off as well...

those are the reasons why I feel like rap music is more popular in the US

NOW... in todays society, with the whole concept that we are living in a 'global village' taking off, I see electronic dance music moving more forward into the main stream... in big cities and college campus' at least. As the world becomes more connected through the internet and the economy, I see EDM rising in popularity. Some people might say they dont want that. They want their EDM to stay underground. They dont want DJ's to 'sell-out'. They dont want people who arent obsessed with the music listening. I say fuck that. If people like the music they like it. period.

once again... thats my opinion. hate it or love it. you just read it.


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jerZ07002
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Lord
dude i have no idea what you just said...

that's because he only uses periods in ellipses.






anyway, you can't expect everyone to like your shit - get over it.

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GUBostonDubs
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quote:
Originally posted by The Vza
Well... I rap. I have been rapping for like, 7 years or something like that. I have a music video, a pretty decent swagger, I even met with the CEO of Ultra Records to discuss a deal. All this happened before I started listening to EDM. I didn't even know shit about Ultra when I went there... imagine my utter jaw dropping when I started getting into electronic and realizing who I had met with. Ultra has a hip-hop label under it and Pat Moxey, the CEO said that his door is open again to me if I can come back with tighter production and more videos. Basically, they MIGHT be willing to do distribution and promotion if I can get the production aspects done myself...

being that I have this unique view of being on TA and loving everything that goes with it AND having somewhat made a small mark in the rap game, I feel like I can answer your question quite fully...

the reason that rap/hip-hop/RB whatever you want to call it, dominates the US charts, is because it was born, raised, and expanded in America for one thing. Whereas although Detroit is where its at as far as EDM goes, it's been perfected in Europe more, imo. maybe I'm wrong...

The american public is more familiar with the RB of old, ie the motown sound and the blues, etc. The orginal/true hip-hop culture was born out of that. DJing, bboying, graffiti, and the MC were the four components. That shit is cool and appealed on a large scale to many many people. Even though it was born out of the angst of urban life in the late 70's and 80's, it represented a new and sometimes forbidden culture to non-afro american youth in the 90's, Towards the late 90's is where I see it turning pop... not pop like Michael Jackson was pop, but pop like Brittney Spears pop. Basically, because it was already popular, record execs knew they could manufacture and sell a product, call it music, and push it on the radio to teens and tweens.

i think the reason EDM never took off like that in America was because it had the stigma of being exclusively underground. Also, lets face it, a lot of people in the 'rave' scene of old were a bunch of wierdos. Plus the fact that the US is overall very homophobic and hateful of gays, and EDM has in some cases been linked to being gay music (my friends called me a fag for listening to trance, until i gave them pills... next thing I knew they were crawling on the floor with pacifiers in theirs mouths thanking me). PLUS, the whole drug-relation with EDM throws people off as well...

those are the reasons why I feel like rap music is more popular in the US

NOW... in todays society, with the whole concept that we are living in a 'global village' taking off, I see electronic dance music moving more forward into the main stream... in big cities and college campus' at least. As the world becomes more connected through the internet and the economy, I see EDM rising in popularity. Some people might say they dont want that. They want their EDM to stay underground. They dont want DJ's to 'sell-out'. They dont want people who arent obsessed with the music listening. I say fuck that. If people like the music they like it. period.

once again... thats my opinion. hate it or love it. you just read it.


You make alot of good points man


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