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LfmC
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DSP Cards - What to get?

Creamware/powercore/UAD? Which one is best and why?
Also what are the advantages using these DSP plugins today compared to the VST's?

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Storyteller
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UAD2 is coming, so if you want to buy uad, wait a bit .

There are 2 real advantages I can think of. The plugins don't load your CPU, and the qulaity of most plugins on the powercore and UAD are of amazing quality.

Downside, it's relatively expensive compared to common plugs.

And I think the UAD has a bit more of the kind of plugins I like.


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LfmC
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Do they really sound that good?
Also which would you say was a "best buy" option? And how is the VST support?

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Do they really sound that good?


no Grab a focusrite liquid mix instead, they do a wonderful VST integrated thing which sounds brilliant, at least it has physical controls.


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LfmC
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no Grab a focusrite liquid mix instead, they do a wonderful VST integrated thing which sounds brilliant, at least it has physical controls.


Yeah I've been looking at the Liquid Mix for a while now, and it seems quite cheap for what you get. But AFAIK it's primarily aimed at ppl who want emulations of famous hardware EQ's and compressors. It has no support for any other types of effects or instruments, and I'd really like to covers as much of my "plugin needs" as possible when buying a DSP card.

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use native plugins. they are as good as DSP plugins.

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Storyteller
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Do they really sound that good?
Also which would you say was a "best buy" option? And how is the VST support?


Well I would say some specific plugins do sound very good, but most of those things also exist in VST .

Neither of the cards support VST as far as I know. You can't run a VST on one of the DSP's.

The earlier mentioned liquid mix is a very cheap solution which offers a lot features . It does more than the original hardware based unit and is about 5 times cheaper!


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dannib
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If you are mainly looking for eqs, compressors get UAD. The compressors are much nicer sounding than any native vst imo. If you are mainly looking for reverbs, powercore definately comes out on top. The VSS3 reverb puts most native algorithmic reverbs to shame.

I myself use both. I only use powercore for the virus plugin and VSS3 reverb. for everything else i use UAD.

UAD also has some exciting new products coming such as the empirical labs fatso, a moog filter etc.

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UAD-2 is going to be immense


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Red5un
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It really depends on your needs.

IMO,

- Powercore for the reverbs

- UAD for compressors

- LiquidMix for compressors and EQ

- Creamware for signal routing and synths and a few excellent 3rd party reverbs.

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Yeah I've been looking at the Liquid Mix for a while now, and it seems quite cheap for what you get. But AFAIK it's primarily aimed at ppl who want emulations of famous hardware EQ's and compressors. It has no support for any other types of effects or instruments, and I'd really like to covers as much of my "plugin needs" as possible when buying a DSP card.


and it doesn't sound like the hardware it emulates, at all

it sounds good, but nothing like what it emulates

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Red5un
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and it doesn't sound like the hardware it emulates, at all

it sounds good, but nothing like what it emulates



Emulations can get close, but they're not the real thing.


Just like a fake Paris Hilton can look good, she probably won't be as rich or as dumb as the original.

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