I have a few simple moral rules that I live by in my day to day existence, such as:

Don't lie.
Don't kill anybody.
Don't hurt anybody except in self-defense.
Don't break promises.
Don't cheat.

The funny thing is, I almost never do any of these things, nor do I even want to do any of them most of the time. Conflict between my desires and my moral convictions is very rare. It seems like I almost never face any real "moral dilemmas."

Now, I don't believe that there is an objective morality written into the nature of the universe, but sometimes it strikes me as suspicious how neatly my desires coincide with what my practical moral code allows me to do.

Any thoughts?

So? What's wrong with that? I don't find it suspicious at all.

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Originally posted by jennypie So? What's wrong with that? I don't find it suspicious at all.

I dunno. It seems like there should be more struggle going on.

Maybe I'm just a moral masochist.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles but sometimes it strikes me as suspicious how neatly my desires coincide with what my practical moral code allows me to do. Any thoughts?

Really, I think it just makes you a good person. Simple as.

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Originally posted by david.michael Really, I think it just makes you a good person.

Well, maybe.

What I am getting at is that it seems like everyone tries to convince himself that he's a "good person." Probably even a lot of hired assassins, rapists, and torturers think of themselves as "good people."

To what extent is "morality" merely an after-the-fact pat on the back that we give ourselves when we review our actions? Like, "Well, I may not be perfect but at least I don't do *those* things."

I say man up

That's one of your major weaknesses... You don't want to be known as the guy who never told lies, never took drugs and never cheated on anyone, do you?

/a cookie to ones who pick up the reference

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Originally posted by Azz3D I say man up That's one of your major weaknesses... You don't want to be known as the guy who never told lies, never took drugs and never cheated on anyone, do you? /a cookie to ones who pick up the reference

Trainspotting.

And I've taken drugs. But I don't think taking drugs is immoral.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Well, maybe. What I am getting at is that it seems like everyone tries to convince himself that he's a "good person." Probably even a lot of hired assassins, rapists, and torturers think of themselves as "good people."

Are you questioning your "black-and-white" list of morals and wondering if there should be more gray area then?

Perhaps you're just not often put into a position where there is a moral dilemma. (Save the bus of children or save the person you love, Spiderman!)

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Trainspotting. And I've taken drugs. But I don't think taking drugs is immoral.

Well done , and I agree

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Originally posted by david.michael Are you questioning your "black-and-white" list of morals and wondering if there should be more gray area then?

Not really. I'm wondering to what extent "morals" are simply self-justifications, excuses to consider ourselves superior to other people.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I have a few simple moral rules that I live by in my day to day existence, such as: Don't lie. Don't kill anybody. Don't hurt anybody except in self-defense. Don't break promises. Don't cheat.

What would you do if you promised to keep a secret between you and friend A, but then friend B asks you a direct question regarding the secret that requires a yes or no answer? Do you lie to friend B to keep friend A's secret, or tell the truth and reveal what Friend A told you to keep secret?

i'm a good person even if i would shame anyone publicly.

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