Hey guys im trying to make my first progressive trance track but im stuck ! I cant find a good vst synth that has that piano sound . I
want to use a piano chord sequence in the intro and other parts of song.

i have v-station
vanguard
and zeta

Cant you make progressive trance without a piano? Anyways, Native Instruments Acoustic Pianos, Steinberg The Grand. Use the search function and you will find more possibly better vst's.

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Originally posted by newtrancer a good vst synth that has that piano sound

Well I can't find one either, maybe because Piano is very hard to synthesise ... the closest you can get at the moment is probably the Vsynth GT ... but its hardware and costs a lot (and doesn't sound that good either).

I would use a sampler instead, almost every sampler has a piano so you can search for vst samplers for a good (or at least proper) piano sound.

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native instruments akoustik piano rocks your socks. Aint that expensive either, well worth the money if you ask me!

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Originally posted by davedresden i suggest getting the gabriel & dresden prog-a-minute. in 3 easy steps you too could change the face of dance music. batteries not included. - dave

Pianoteq sounds nice to me, based on the audio demos. Maybe grab the demo version of that and see if it's worth buying.

ahh yeah pianoteq, forgot to mention that one.
It's a really nifty plug if you can settle for somewhat good. It's easy to use but compared to a multisample steinway or something similar it's lightyears behind.

Well worth a try tho!

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Originally posted by davedresden i suggest getting the gabriel & dresden prog-a-minute. in 3 easy steps you too could change the face of dance music. batteries not included. - dave

people on kvr seem to rate truepaino for realness i gues and the native instruments one. personally i like one of the ones in nexus.

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Originally posted by newtrancer i have v-station vanguard and zeta

You're not going to get a decent piano sound out of any of those subtractive VAs. I agree with the post above me - Nexus has some excellent trance pianos in the included soundset and even more in the Piano expansion.

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Originally posted by Vizay ahh yeah pianoteq, forgot to mention that one. It's a really nifty plug if you can settle for somewhat good. It's easy to use but compared to a multisample steinway or something similar it's lightyears behind.

I've never tried pianoteq, could you elaborate on this? In what way is it light years behind?

Watching a pianoteq video, they talk about things such as if one key is held down (without sounding) and you play a different key, it will affect the sound of the key that is played. They say that multisampled pianos don't change the sample being played - if you play C4 for example, it will play one of the C4 samples, it doesn't trigger a different sample if you happen to be holding down C0 while you play, or C#0 while you play, or D0 while you play (and so on, for every key on the piano - then you can hold two keys down and repeat the process) - obviously it's not just when holding keys down, but when you play keys together, the interaction of the harmonics between the keys.

It just kinda made sense, that multisampled pianos won't do that. I haven't actually tried pianoteq, but going by the audio demos, to my ears it just sounds like a well recorded piano. Potentially they have a lot of work to do on the synthesis engine, but to my ears it sounds totally fine to put into a trance song. And 15 megs as opposed to many gigs is a big plus in my book.

thanks guys ill give samples a try as i dont have nexus ,was trying to create my own piano sound with my vsts.

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Originally posted by derail I've never tried pianoteq, could you elaborate on this? In what way is it light years behind? Watching a pianoteq video, they talk about things such as if one key is held down (without sounding) and you play a different key, it will affect the sound of the key that is played. They say that multisampled pianos don't change the sample being played - if you play C4 for example, it will play one of the C4 samples, it doesn't trigger a different sample if you happen to be holding down C0 while you play, or C#0 while you play, or D0 while you play (and so on, for every key on the piano - then you can hold two keys down and repeat the process) - obviously it's not just when holding keys down, but when you play keys together, the interaction of the harmonics between the keys. It just kinda made sense, that multisampled pianos won't do that. I haven't actually tried pianoteq, but going by the audio demos, to my ears it just sounds like a well recorded piano. Potentially they have a lot of work to do on the synthesis engine, but to my ears it sounds totally fine to put into a trance song. And 15 megs as opposed to many gigs is a big plus in my book.

It makes perfect sense actually that it works that way as it's how it should be. ANd you're right, multisampled pianos (afaik) don't have that feature. However they still sound more realistic and that's why I put them in another league than the pianoteq plugin.

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Originally posted by davedresden i suggest getting the gabriel & dresden prog-a-minute. in 3 easy steps you too could change the face of dance music. batteries not included. - dave

Pianoteq looks tasty and its component modelling ill have to try that one out

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