promoters pay more money for exclusivity, hence make more money in the long run as other people arent booking said dj

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Originally posted by narcism *start rant* Why is it djs are signed to exclusive contracts with promoters? For example: armin is signed with future, just say company B want to bring him out but they cant. So if future decide armin doesnt come down for another 2 yrs then thats the way its going to be. Surely the clubbers are missing out here

Keep in mind Jolz, often a promoter takes a pretty big risk bringing out an act with little guarantee of success, espescially with up and coming artists.

If the promoter sees a lot of potential in an act they might be prepared to wear a loss on the first gig just to get them established with the Australian market but they then need that exclusivity to recoup the loss through future gigs.

Think about it this way - you bring out a dj for his first time and not enough came to the gig because it's his first time so you lose a lot of cash. Thing is, the dj kills it and people talk for a couple of weeks about how good he was.

Next thing you know a different promoter re-books him 6 months later based on the hype from his last gig and packs out he venue making heaps of cash.. you'd be a bit cheesed.

Thats a pretty simplified example but i hope you can see what i mean?

well said scotty... pretty much spot on!

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Originally posted by batemanscott Think about it this way - you bring out a dj for his first time and not enough came to the gig because it's his first time so you lose a lot of cash. Thing is, the dj kills it and people talk for a couple of weeks about how good he was. Next thing you know a different promoter re-books him 6 months later based on the hype from his last gig and packs out he venue making heaps of cash.. you'd be a bit cheesed. Thats a pretty simplified example but i hope you can see what i mean?

i understand this just think its wrong especially with all the up and coming parties for next year

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Originally posted by walter78 were you thinking of garage bbq party with armin jolz?

yea and you're not invited

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Originally posted by narcism yea and you're not invited

heh. i'll get that $20 i owe u to u soon.

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Originally posted by batemanscott Keep in mind Jolz, often a promoter takes a pretty big risk bringing out an act with little guarantee of success, espescially with up and coming artists. If the promoter sees a lot of potential in an act they might be prepared to wear a loss on the first gig just to get them established with the Australian market but they then need that exclusivity to recoup the loss through future gigs. Think about it this way - you bring out a dj for his first time and not enough came to the gig because it's his first time so you lose a lot of cash. Thing is, the dj kills it and people talk for a couple of weeks about how good he was. Next thing you know a different promoter re-books him 6 months later based on the hype from his last gig and packs out he venue making heaps of cash.. you'd be a bit cheesed. Thats a pretty simplified example but i hope you can see what i mean?

that all makes perfect sense, but as a big fan of the free market i still think its bollocks.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN that all makes perfect sense, but as a big fan of the free market i still think its bollocks.

+1 especially if they dont tour that dj again

Yeah i can see why you feel that way but consider this - if promoters cant get some level of confidence in turning a profit through a couple of gigs then the artist may not get to come out at all

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN that all makes perfect sense, but as a big fan of the free market i still think its bollocks.

I have to get behind pkc on this. It all makes commercial sense of course but hey - fuck your commercial reality! (dont take this personal)
Music and the Arts are supposed to be free from the sentiment of orchestrated gain or the corruption is infesting the very nature of it. It is an all GIVE situation and if you get something back besides equalisation for your own expenses then it should be respect and experience and not $$$! Live Yes - Profit NO!

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