I'm currently enjoying my free time by remixing 'Lowlife' by Sasha and Adam Parker.

Can I hand out my own remix to anybody without getting busted for it?

I don't think that's the case but I know for sure that the Mongoose Remix contest rules said that posting remixes on Myspace pages was clearly not allowed.

What can I do with other people's work? What are the actuals limits?

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just take out the key samples you used for the remix ie the samples you used/given to you for the comp.
and replace them with your own.

i think you just can't promote it in a public space: so, can't put it anywhere in the public market area (as myspace is a highly promotional area, that bumps that)--

Think of it as just the original song (i.e: as if you'd not done anything to it)- therefore, obviously it's piracy to go around giving it to people etc...

it's not like they can really stop you sending it around to people though...

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Originally posted by airwalker1 just take out the key samples you used for the remix ie the samples you used/given to you for the comp. and replace them with your own.

I have no samples, it's not a comp. I'm sort of remaking the track.

I heard stuff like if you keep the sample loop UNDER 8 measures, your remix cannot be considered as an infringement to copyright holders.

Since Lowlife is like a two bar loop all the way I should be cleared right?

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Originally posted by ponsshin I have no samples, it's not a comp. I'm sort of remaking the track. I heard stuff like if you keep the sample loop UNDER 8 measures, your remix cannot be considered as an infringement to copyright holders. Since Lowlife is like a two bar loop all the way I should be cleared right?

I dont think it works like that. You could remix a song and use no samples whatsoever but if its a remix and you are labelling it as such then the rules apply, regardless of what you used to make it.

I think you'll be fine though to hand it out to people. Its not like you're profiting from it and if it ever gained popularity and the label noticed, they would just take the track from you and release it for themselves as you have no rights to it.

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Originally posted by G-Con if it ever gained popularity and the label noticed, they would just take the track from you and release it for themselves as you have no rights to it.

hmm are you sure gcon?
im sure i read somewhere pryds sampled Steve Winwood's song "Valerie" for his track call on me, which was never cleared until it became a club hit, then the record label teamed eric with Steve Winwood to re-record the vocals and officially release the track (as a Eric Prydz track).

I guess this could be a one off though.

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Originally posted by Kid_presentable hmm are you sure gcon? im sure i read somewhere pryds sampled Steve Winwood's song "Valerie" for his track call on me, which was never cleared until it became a club hit, then the record label teamed eric with Steve Winwood to re-record the vocals and officially release the track (as a Eric Prydz track). I guess this could be a one off though.

Well yeah, I suppose if the label feels its in their interest to do something like that then they well - and teaming up with Eric Prydz is certainly beneficial. I guess the point I was making was the label aint gonna take you to court for remixing one of their tunes and handing it out to a few people. In the end, they will own all rights to it so any potential profit to make from it will be theirs.

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Originally posted by ponsshin I have no samples, it's not a comp. I'm sort of remaking the track. I heard stuff like if you keep the sample loop UNDER 8 measures, your remix cannot be considered as an infringement to copyright holders. Since Lowlife is like a two bar loop all the way I should be cleared right?

There is no magical time/length limit on these things - it's all about whether the sample is recognizable or not.

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I seriously doubt a dance label will give you troubles with it. Mainstream labels might.
You DO own rights to your remix, but your remix should never have been created (creating derivative works is illegal) so they could sue you. But if it was successful enough to bother to sue, they'd more likely just take your profits OR if it was not commercially released, might release it and give you some of the profits.

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Originally posted by kitphillips I seriously doubt a dance label will give you troubles with it. Mainstream labels might. You DO own rights to your remix, but your remix should never have been created (creating derivative works is illegal) so they could sue you.

So you're saying you do have rights but not the rights to create te remix, thus have no rights?

I know different rules apply per country when talking about intellectual property. Strictly speaking there are a couple of rights you have when doing a remix, but those only apply when the rights owner grants you the right to do a remix. The remix will always be property of the owner of the master rights (mostly artist and/or record label).

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Originally posted by kitphillips You DO own rights to your remix,

I think every label contract out there will specify that the label owns all and every remix/reproduction of the original work, regardless who its done by or what they used.

Of course like Storyteller says, if the label grant permission beforehand to do a remix then its entirely dependent on the conditions set in that situation

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So as long as I'm not putting it to commercial use it's ok?
Well thanks.

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