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s3nate
Choklit Reignnnnn



Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Vancouver
Looking for a specific type of tutorial

I tried the search already so don't flame me for it

I'm looking for a type of tutorial that shows you how to recreate a full track. So basically I need a tutorial that shows step by step to recreate say *for example* Not Exactly by Deadmau5. I just learn the fastest this way. If anyone can point me to the right place that would be excellent.

Thanks!

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Acton
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: London

"Learn to produce like a pro in minutes with our 9min tutorial video!"




There are loads of useful videos on youtube, just spend some time looking through those.


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MOK
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Registered: Dec 2007
Location: Seattle

Yep, there's no such tutorial mate. I wish I could better explain why, but it simply doesn't work like that. In some ways it just requires the knowledge, experience, and skill. To be sure, there aren't step-by-step processes, nor even much for vague ordering guidelines. Every producer is different, and there bound to be a lot of difference from song-to-song from the same producer.

That said, I'll venture a guess on what you're REALLY interested in:
You want to see what a pro song looks like inside a DAW, originally. To see what went in to it, what complexities exist, what was given how much attention, etc.

Yeah, I'd love to see more of that myself.... But there's just not much out there for such. Music magazines' video interviews are going to be about as close as you can get, barring a local producer friend.

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jason_bradberry
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Registered: Jul 2008
Location: Chichester, UK

There's a few interesting threads at the top of the defected 'tech talk' forum - http://forum.defected.com, its house music but still shows some pro level tracks and how they look inside a sequencer. Doesnt show anything in detail but its a start.

Also, check out the dvd tutorials and interviews on magazines like computer music and future music, they always give a lot of insight into the techniques of pro producers. You'll find though that you'll end up picking up information one small tip a a time. That's no bad thing though, as a big part of getting a pro sound is learning all the little tricks and putting them together!

Computer music recently did a special edition magazine with a tonne of their producer interviews from past magazines all on one disc. Might be worth looking at if you can find a copy. Also try and hunt down darren tate's video that came on the 'CM Guide to Trance' edition of computer music, that is the closest you will come to getting a tutorial which goes through the production of a whole track (Darren Tate's 'On the 7th Day').

Also check out the tutorials by Airbase at http://www.airbasemusic.com.

There's loads of great tutorials if you look around, and they will help you for sure, but as has been said don't expect to find much in the way of guides to reproducing a whole track.

Happy hunting!


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MOK
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Registered: Dec 2007
Location: Seattle

quote:
Originally posted by jason_bradberry
There's a few interesting threads at the top of the defected 'tech talk' forum - http://forum.defected.com

Link fixed.

Thanks for the link... I've been looking for a vibrant house forum. I likes me some tarnce, but I also likes me some house.

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s3nate
Choklit Reignnnnn



Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Vancouver

Thanks for the help!

Maybe if a nice producer will post in here how to remake one of their tracks if they do not care that much

For now I'll just check those links out and just screw around with programs.

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JmanNZ
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Ive been producing for just under 6 months now and have had to learn stuff like this, the question you are asking is one that had me confused for quite some time, but like you will read, you pick these things up one bit at a time. If I am right, you are wondering things like how do you start a track (with a kick and bass, or with sounds, or with a melody etc...) how do you put a track together (ground up or right to left), how do you know when to add another element to the mix or just make what you already got bigger...

I've been thinking about writing a tutorial which basically goes over all this stuff I have figured out over the last 6 months, but I think it would only apply to me (my genre, style, VST's, DAW etc...), and also, I need to stop wasting time thinking and writing about music and more time producing!

Prob one of the biggest turning points for me was to copy a favourite trance track, one that sounds simeple with no vocals etc... That way you learn a little about what works with what, and you will be amazed at all the little things you never knew were there that make it sound great. As you go through you can add your own preferences to it and it can eventually turn into something completely original. Actaully, I still really struggle starting from cold, and usually do this just to get momentum and change it all later.

EDIT: Just noticed that this is what you are going to do, good stuf, you don't need a tutoria for this, just start from the beginning with the drums etc... which will take longer than you think, and you need to spend time to get the right sound btw, dont rush or it will sound shit, but dont be too picky because you will never get it to sound identical. Then progress to what ever comes next, piece by piece, A/B between to compare and hear what yours is missing, and on you go...

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Lucidity
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Registered: Jan 2008
Location: Philadelphia

I agree with everyone else that you need to learn lots on your own but, I also learn alot via youtube. Check this one out that someone posted here a little while ago. Even if you don't use Reason it still shows basics of getting some kind of structure going.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=0YOX2iBZE90


There are butt loads of vids, just type in good keywords, like the daw you use follow by tutorial. eg- "Ableton Live Tutorial"


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jason_bradberry
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Registered: Jul 2008
Location: Chichester, UK

quote:
Originally posted by JmanNZ
Prob one of the biggest turning points for me was to copy a favourite trance track, one that sounds simeple with no vocals etc... That way you learn a little about what works with what, and you will be amazed at all the little things you never knew were there that make it sound great. As you go through you can add your own preferences to it and it can eventually turn into something completely original.


This also really helped me develop, would definitely recommend this method. If you give it a go, really try and listen to each individual element and work hard to recreate it as faithfully as you can. Break down the sounds and think about how they might have created them. Like JmanNZ has already said though, use this method to create your own original take on whatever track you're recreating, and you will create parts and synth presets that you can use in your own tracks.


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kitphillips
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Registered: May 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia

A lot of these posts are a bit irrelevant, because there was a future music or electronic musician tutorial which was posted online which detailed the structure and creation of a complete trance track. Search maybe? It might be in the stickies but I can't remember.

I think the important caveat though with that is (as some have mentioned) that all tracks are quite different, so you need to take the whole thing with a grain of salt. Ideally its something worth looking at once you've developed your own style and already have some experience.


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Ludikruz
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Registered: May 2003
Location: MA

hey thanks for that great defected link.. ive also been learning production for the past 6 months and it does help alot to see someone elses track laid out

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flutlicht junky
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Bournemouth, UK

7 Skies and Static Blue have a few videos of their tracks inc and overview of the intro of one.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7kKNJpMyitI

Also Future Music magazine often has videos from successful producers going through their tracks etc.


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