This didn't get the press it should have.

Putin reaching out and really going for a global leadership position. Aparently Davos was almost completely ignored by bankers and politicians from the US.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed2F0k6JAqU

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Originally Posted by Putin Instead of solving the problem, militarization pushes it to a deeper level. It draws away from the economy and takes financial and material resources which could have been more efficiently used elsewhere. I am confident that if we limit our military spending at the same time strengthening stability and security this will definitely produce serious economic dividends.

There are a bunch of other vids from Davos but I've not seen them yet.

So here's some more, works been slow:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2EG...feature=related

Here are some quotes:

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Originally Posted by Putin The excessive dependance on what is basically the only reserve currency is danger4ous for the world economy, so it would be reasonable to stimulate the process of getting a number of strong reserve currencies in the future. It is time to start a specific dialogue on how to make the transition into a new model smooth and irreversible. ... In many parts of the world quality housing is inaccesible, quality medicine is inaccesable and the crisis has not changed this. ... The race of indexes and capitalization was the focus of the companies over the real efficiency and production. ... Prosperity [of the US in the past decades] was not earned but borrowed ... The evaluation of a business should be bassed on the ability of a busness to generate value added. ... the economy of the 21st century is one of human beings and not of factories. ... the use of geopolitical tensions to distract people from economic and social problems should be avoided at all cost. ... The global food problem needs to be addressed ... Honesty, integrity, industry, responsibility, and self-confidence [are the values that were making things good]

To be honest, the guy was more capitalist then so much of what's gone on in the US lately. ... or at least he seems to have a better understanding of the foundations of capitalisim then what you would hear on CNN (and especially fox news )

ive had alot of free time recently, and i was gonna make it a point to watch some of the best Davos footage. does anyone have any good reccomendations?

edit:what does everyone think about claims that putin has accumulamated a mass amount of wealth in secrecy? shares in gazprom for example. his official 2007 report says he has only 150 000 dollars in private cash, a few old cars, a small apartment in st petesberg, and a few other miniscule stakes.

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Originally posted by DJ Damerchi :what does everyone think about claims that putin has accumulamated a mass amount of wealth in secrecy? shares in gazprom for example. his official 2007 report says he has only 150 000 dollars in private cash, a few old cars, a small apartment in st petesberg, and a few other miniscule stakes.

I wouldnt be surprised if this was true - that he has a lot of wealth stacked up, or at least partially true. In Russia, anything is possible ... as Churchill said long ago, its an enigma, so mysterious and puzzling ...

But knowing Putin, I think he likes being in power and control, likes his macho image, loves being the folk hero. So I doubt he is stealing for personal wealth or taking in a lot of bribes (FROM WHO, ask yourself) - he enjoys being in power. He is not worrying about personal wealth, his ass is well covered I think.

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Originally posted by atbell Aparently Davos was almost completely ignored by bankers and politicians from the US.

What are you talking about? I saw lots of coverage.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy What are you talking about? I saw lots of coverage.

Obama didn't send anyone to attend.

A large number of the investment banks (former) chose not to send representatives.

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Originally posted by atbell Obama didn't send anyone to attend. A large number of the investment banks (former) chose not to send representatives.

Obama sent Valerie Jarrett

Which investment banks didn't send reps? I did hear that the numbers were down, but not that they didn't send anyone.

Not surprising given how everyone's caving to to this notion that retreats and conferences anywhere cooler than Kansas are a waste of taxpayer money and bankers are just giving themselves free vacations.

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Here's American Gladiators, here is 56 channels of it,
Watch these picturary retards bang their fuckin' skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom,
Here you go America you are free to do as we tell you
We want your soul
Your cash, your house, your phone, your cash, your house, your life" -Adam Freeland - We Want Your Soul

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy Not surprising given how everyone's caving to to this notion that retreats and conferences anywhere cooler than Kansas are a waste of taxpayer money

Taxpayer money? Who cares about taxpayer money. The US Treasury Secretary announced plans today to spend $1.5 trillion+ to prop up failing banks..and this is in addition to the $900 billion stimulus plan passed by congress. We've got plenty of money to blow for this sort of thing..

Proof:

Hmmmmmmm... is Putin already manipulating The One?? Putin is no joke.


Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'


http://en.rian.ru/russia/20090302/120375219.html

If Iran isn't a threat why do we need the Missile shield? That's what Bush + Co. said it was for did they not?

But lets roll with Putin being the new Czar of the USA. That's cool too.

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Originally posted by The17sss Hmmmmmmm... is Putin already manipulating The One?? Putin is no joke. Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran' http://en.rian.ru/russia/20090302/120375219.html

Yeah, I read this on BBC News this morning. I must quickly point out that now the advantage is in Russia's favour - she has better cards, so to speak. Russia has much more to lose with accepting this USA offer - and besides, shield or no shield - Russia isnt returning its influence in Eastern Europe (particularly around the area in question: Poland, Czech Rep) - at least not anytime soon. The shield worries her more as a military threat, as a barrier against its future economic aspirations and influence.

Iran purchases billions of dollars of Russian military and equipment, plus Russia is still contracted to finish that reactor at Busher. Moscow doesnt want to simply hand over Iran on a plate to Americans for the sake of "dropping" USA plans for a missile shield in Europe.

I doubt that NATO now has the money, the support or even political advantage in building the shield. They need Russia right now more than ever. Dont forget - Russia is now absolutely critically important to NATO in keeping their Afghanistan under control, as supplies are increasing being shipped through Russia as other alternatives (through Pakistan) are hit by growing Taliban.

Make no mistake, this is a weak deal for Russia to accept. She's got the advantage here. Missile shield shouldn't even be part of the question, it needs to be dropped altogether. And only then can NATO make a different deal to stop Iranian nuclear ambitions.

Russia is maybe allowing journalists to be killed and human rights at home ignored, but NATO/EU/USA need Russia today more than she needs them. Especially now that the last USA base in Central Asia is getting shut down.

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Last edited by Magnetonium on Mar-04-2009 at 01:26