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noicuc
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How to avoid audio pumping?

So does anyone knows how to avoid audio pumping in songs? Cause i know my songs pump alot .


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Jimb0b
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"Pumping" is a bit of a loose term, do you mean something similar to when you sidechain something ?


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Subtle
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take it easy on the compressor


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Stephen Wiley
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Re: How to avoid audio pumping?

quote:
Originally posted by noicuc
So does anyone knows how to avoid audio pumping in songs? Cause i know my songs pump alot .


Look at your attacks and more importantly the delays/reverbs for whatever parts of the "pumping" bother you. Make sure you're looking at your wave forms as well. I know what I've said is "no shit" kinda stuff but I always find myself puzzled over "no shit" type stuff. I couldn't figure out how to get a kick from a pack to play 4 on the floor the other day....LOL


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Vizay
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take all your inserts out of the chain and redo your mixing from there. Make sure you don't have any inserts at all on your master track, that will only make things worse.

Work from scratch and only add inserts when you're absolutley sure you need them.

Apart from that, you might want to learn how and why to use a compressor.


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Zak McKracken
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delete your compressor and lower your volume

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derail
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Choosing sounds that fit together and setting appropriate levels will lead to a much louder mix than making poorer choices and trying to achieve a "competitive level" via compression or limiting.

Very often, the low frequencies are much too loud. That was my problem for quite a while, trying to get this massive bottom end. If I'd referenced against my favourite songs more I'd have realised a lot more quickly how off I was.

I'm sure you've read it many times - cut all unnecessary low end out of the sounds that don't need it - if you cut those low frequencies away from the percussive elements, and lead sounds, and pads (there are no magic "always use this frequency" settings, since it depends on the kick and bass used in a given song), then the kick and bass will come through a lot more clearly, and seem a lot louder, without having to compress or EQ them.

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Subtle
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Derail: Yes, low cut everything that isnt suppose to be bass, even if you dont hear much difference.


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noicuc
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Pumping as in the "Sidechain" effect , its like a pad sidechained to a kick , only thing is here the entire song is kinda Sidechained , even thou i didn't sidechain anything at all!!


So what do i do with the attack? And i might want to try what derail suggests , although its really laggy here lol (512 ram , 1.66 x 2 ghz... lagtop..)

PS : Does anyone knows any comb filter vst?


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Vizay
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do you have a compressor on the master out? Sure sounds like it. Take it away!


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noicuc
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quote:
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do you have a compressor on the master out? Sure sounds like it. Take it away!




Yeah i have a compressor on the master.
Take it away? Then what happens to "Mastering" the song?


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Zild
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quote:
Originally posted by noicuc
Yeah i have a compressor on the master.
Take it away? Then what happens to "Mastering" the song?


Having a compressor on the master bus doesn't exactly count as mastering.


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