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Originally posted by HardTranceProd Does anyone else see any parallels in what's going on right now in the US with the 1917 Soviet revolution, where an angry and populist Bolshevik majority stormed the gates of the elite and redistributed their wealth? Less bloody, of course, but the idea is the same: The privileged few are a cancer upon the body of the population; their influence and wealth must be curbed; power belongs to the "plain Joes"; the uneducated and lower-class masses are screaming, "Down with the wealthy elites!" That this Marxist turn of events should occur in, of all places, the United States, the stronghold of capitalism, is the height of irony. I bet McCarthy is turning in his grave right now. Thoughts?

No. Nothing in this country compares to the Bolshevik revolution. No one is abandoning free market capitalism. What is happening is the system is being reigned in so that a recession of this kind and magnitude never happen again. Call it Marxism, call it socialism, call it whatever you like. Laissez-faire capitalism does not work and I'm glad the leadership knows this and is acting upon it.

EDIT: and just to be clear, what's happening now is not marxism, or communism!

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Originally posted by Krypton ... I'm glad the leadership knows this and is acting upon it.

is it now? i think the bailouts really only benefited the elite and the banks anyway, the middle class and the poor got nothing out of it, and i'm a bit disillusioned with some of the appointments obama has made...seems like the same people who were controlling things all along are being placed in charge

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Originally posted by AnotherWay83 is it now? i think the bailouts really only benefited the elite and the banks anyway, the middle class and the poor got nothing out of it, and i'm a bit disillusioned with some of the appointments obama has made...seems like the same people who were controlling things all along are being placed in charge

Of course it benefited the banks. If they go down, we all go down. The stimulus has plenty in it for education, infrastructure, and green jobs, all of which help the middle class. Additionally, those mortgage payers who can pay their mortgage but need a little help will get it. The people who helped cause this crisis at the big firms are actually long gone.

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Originally posted by AnotherWay83 is it now? i think the bailouts really only benefited the elite and the banks anyway, the middle class and the poor got nothing out of it, and i'm a bit disillusioned with some of the appointments obama has made...seems like the same people who were controlling things all along are being placed in charge

well, nobody pays any attention to what you think because youre an ignorant turd.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN well, nobody pays any attention to what you think because youre an ignorant turd.

if you say so.

shouldn't you be off fighting the NWO or something?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN shouldn't you be off fighting the NWO or something?

har har har how very witty you are!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN well, nobody pays any attention to what you think because youre an ignorant turd.

This guy joined in August 2000. Compare that to when you joined. Isn't some respect due for the oldschool members, if nothing else?

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Originally posted by Krypton No one is abandoning free market capitalism. What is happening is the system is being reigned in so that a recession of this kind and magnitude never happen again.

For someone with a mad-crazy entrepreneurial spirit, I can't believe you wrote that considering what's happening now with the power grab from the Treasury and this administration.

I guess the similarities that I can think of for the topic is that both "revolutions" are full of lies. Communists lied, now capitalists are lying. More personal and political gains than progress and improvement. Long term there are more serious problems that can hurt American financial system.

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NOTHING can compare to the 1917 "Revolution".

It wasn't a revolution as the communists claim - it was a coup d'etat followed by a civil war. They were a minority, and became strong because while millions of real men were fighting WW1, they were planting to undermine and turn the country upside down. It wasn't about redistribution of wealth and power - it was about control and destruction of national system and values - because those could possibly become a threat to their control. Wealth? Yeah, redistributed so that everyone in the country became equally poor.

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