I am an environmentalist, and some of the things there sound good, except the one world government. Thanks, but no thanks. And no thanks to the end of the diversity of languages and cultures, which I can obviously see this organization leading to.

Even though it will be the eventual result, and one way or another human population will be brought down several-fold (*wink wink*), I think that human attempts to solve this environmental problem will: a) fail / succeed at a significant loss to the biosystem or b) enslave the human population ... but probably improve the environment.

Why enslave? Judging by the nature of humans, one-government system at this point is likely to result in the most dangerous leadership at the top. With fewer people, one language and culture, it won't be hard to keep it under control. When a dictator comes out at the top, there will be noone out there to topple it - and no modern dictatorships have fallen without any external influence.

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I've heard of the guidestones before but can't recall where I saw it. Theres a whole section of 'conspiracy theories' dedicated to how we're all going to die. Frankly its a bit morbid for me to pay much attention to. *gulp The guidestones are one of a few examples. Anyone remember when the University of Texas prof got all that media coverage about his speech claiming we needed to stabilize the population a figure similar to that to sustain the earth.

A lot of things like record and increasing food shortages are accomplishing such a task.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium some of the things there sound good, except the one world government.

You can thank all the mindless drones on here for driving away anyone and everyone who tried to warn you because now it's coming like a locomotive down the tracks.

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CFR Unveils Global Governance Agenda Old-Thinker News | March 31, 2009 By Daniel Taylor The Council on Foreign Relations, often described as the "real state department", has launched an initiative to promote and implement a system of effective world governance. The program, titled "The International Institutions and Global Governance Program," utilizes the resources of the "...David Rockefeller Studies Program to assess existing regional and global governance mechanisms..." The initial funding for the program came with a $6 million grant from the Robina Foundation, which claims that the grant is "...one of the largest operating grants ever received in Council history." The IIGG program, launched on May 1st, 2008, is the latest manifestation of an agenda that has existed since and before the founding of the Council on Foreign Relations. Former CFR member, Rear Admiral Chester Ward, stated regarding the group, "The most powerful clique in these elitist groups have one objective in common - they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereignty and the national independence of the United States. A second clique of international members in the CFR comprises the Wall Street international bankers and their key agents. Primarily, they want the world banking monopoly from whatever power ends up in the control of global government." The International Institutions and Global Governance Program identifies several "global issues" that require a system of world governance. Environmental issues, terrorism, the global economy and energy are all mentioned. The project then states that a system of "universal membership" could be pursued, or alternatively a regional organization, such as the European Union model. "In each of these spheres, the program will consider whether the most promising framework for governance is a formal organization with universal membership (e.g., the United Nations); a regional or sub-regional organization; a narrower, informal coalition of like-minded countries; or some combination of all three." The program calls for the "Re-conceptualizing" of national sovereignty, citing the European Union's "pooling" of sovereignty as a model. The CFR project recognizes that historically, the United States has been resistant to the ideals of global governance. The project states, "Among the most important factors determining the future of global governance will be the attitude of the United States..." The IIGG program continues, "...few countries have been as sensitive as the United States to restrictions on their freedom of action or as jealous in guarding their sovereign prerogatives." The program then states that the separation of powers as stated in the Constitution, along with the U.S. Congress, stand in the way of the United States assuming "new international obligations." As stated, "...the country’s longstanding tradition of liberal “exceptionalism” inspires U.S. vigilance in protecting the domestic sovereignty and institutions from the perceived incursions of international bodies. Finally, the separation of powers enshrined in the U.S. Constitution, which gives Congress a critical voice in the ratification of treaties and endorsement of global institutions, complicates U.S. assumptions of new international obligations." The actions of the Military Industrial Complex under the Bush Administration have served globalist interests well. "Global structures" are now presented as the mechanism to prevent such atrocities. America's demonization is central to building a system of world governance. Patrick M. Stewart, who is currently the director of the CFR IIGG program, is anticipating the Obama administration "...to seek to turn the page on what many perceived to be 'cowboy unilateralism' of the Bush years, by embracing multilateral cooperation, re-kindling U.S. alliances and partnerships, and engaging in sustained diplomacy within the UN framework," as reported by Xinhua. The IIGG project itself stated in May of 2008 that, "Regardless of whether the administration that takes office in January 2009 is Democratic or Republican, the thrust of U.S. foreign policy is likely to be multilateral to a significant degree." Globalist forces are hard at work in the economic and political realms in an attempt to shape the future of the world, furthering the dominance of the global elite. Calls for a global currency in response to the economic crisis are regularly occurring, drawing the tacit support of Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, speaking to the CFR. Henry Kissinger, a CFR member, anticipates that President Obama will, "...give new impetus to American foreign policy partly because the reception of him is so extraordinary around the world. I think his task will be to develop an overall strategy for America in this period when, really, a new world order can be created. It's a great opportunity, it isn't just a crisis." The Council on Foreign Relations global governance program will undoubtedly be pursued under the Obama administration, which is filled with CFR members. President of the CFR, Richard Haass, is serving as a top adviser to the Obama administration. As the IIGG program admits, regardless of who sits in the White House, the globalist agenda moves forward full speed ahead. Read the full IIGG project report here

http://globalpolicy.igc.org/reform/...nance/index.htm

http://www.trilateral.org/annmtgs/t...xts/t54/vie.htm

http://www.newswithviews.com/DeWeese/tom114.htm

http://www.sovereignty.net/p/gov/ogn-front.html

oh look, trancer-x back with one of his alts. i bet all these alts voted in those retarded 911 threads too!

how's the case against me coming trancer? still planning to sue? have you seen the doctors lately? how's that paranoia working for you?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN oh look, trancer-x back with one of his alts. i bet all these alts voted in those retarded 911 threads too! how's the case against me coming trancer? still planning to sue? have you seen the doctors lately? how's that paranoia working for you?

Things are good. I just got back from the beach and have been buying bullets and all of the other necessities (food, water, toilet paper, etc.) to keep me and my family safe and secure during the coming crisis.

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Originally posted by liquid solja Things are good. I just got back from the beach and have been buying bullets and all of the other necessities (food, water, toilet paper, etc.) to keep me and my family safe and secure during the coming crisis.

well, good luck with that!

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PKC, no need to be rude [towards Trancer]. We need to have people of all kinds of beliefs [on this forum], to have meaningful and interesting discussion. In a way, I am happy that LatinLover is back ... well, sort of.

Trancer is a great guy with fantastic input and lots of information. I do not agree on everything with him, but I appreciate his input.

If everyone was just like you, PKC, on this forum - it would be a very fucking dull place, no offense. To paraphrase it, I can quote a Groove Armada song: "If everybody looked the same, we'll get tired of looking at each other".

I think that one of the best things about PDD is that there are people of many ideological beliefs here. Every discussion should have input from all sides, otherwise what the hell is the point of this forum?

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Originally posted by Magnetonium PKC, no need to be rude [towards Trancer]. We need to have people of all kinds of beliefs [on this forum], to have meaningful and interesting discussion. In a way, I am happy that LatinLover is back ... well, sort of. Trancer is a great guy with fantastic input and lots of information. I do not agree on everything with him, but I appreciate his input. If everyone was just like you, PKC, on this forum - it would be a very fucking dull place. I think that one of the best things about PDD is that there are people of many ideological beliefs here. Every discussion should have input from all sides, otherwise what the hell is the point of this forum?

PKC is one of the main reasons why this place is so dead now but I'm sure he realizes that and is probably happy about it.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i bet all these alts voted in those retarded 911 threads too!

Look at the date joined and look at the date of the 9/11 thread.

I know that it's difficult for you to understand with your double digit IQ score and all of that but the numbers don't quite correlate.

It was a good try, though, I'll give you that much. I just hope you didn't strain yourself too much while trying to make that assessment.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium PKC, no need to be rude [towards Trancer]. We need to have people of all kinds of beliefs [on this forum], to have meaningful and interesting discussion. In a way, I am happy that LatinLover is back ... well, sort of.

find me a SINGLE topic where trancer has engaged in "meaningful discussion". just ONE. good luck with that.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Trancer is a great guy with fantastic input and lots of information. I do not agree on everything with him, but I appreciate his input.

trancer copy-pastes bullshit, calls everyone dumb/sheep/disinfo agent that disagrees with him. yeah, he's really awesome.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium If everyone was just like you, PKC, on this forum - it would be a very fucking dull place, no offense. To paraphrase it, I can quote a Groove Armada song: "If everybody looked the same, we'll get tired of looking at each other".

nobody said everyone has to agree, but what makes this place really fucking dull is a plethora of useless, conspiracy threads with long-winded regurgitations by trancer about things he doesn't really understand. im not sure why you think having a bunch of liars around benefits anyone. well, unless you're saying that he makes us feel a little better about our own levels of education (and sanity).

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Originally posted by Magnetonium I think that one of the best things about PDD is that there are people of many ideological beliefs here. Every discussion should have input from all sides, otherwise what the hell is the point of this forum?

again, go find me a single fucking thread where he has actually discussed a topic, rather than spamming pointless and irrelevant nonsense from somebody else ad nauseum.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN find me a SINGLE topic where trancer has engaged in "meaningful discussion". just ONE. good luck with that. trancer copy-pastes bullshit, calls everyone dumb/sheep/disinfo agent that disagrees with him. yeah, he's really awesome. nobody said everyone has to agree, but what makes this place really fucking dull is a plethora of useless, conspiracy threads with long-winded regurgitations by trancer about things he doesn't really understand. im not sure why you think having a bunch of liars around benefits anyone. well, unless you're saying that he makes us feel a little better about our own levels of education (and sanity). again, go find me a single fucking thread where he has actually discussed a topic, rather than spamming pointless and irrelevant nonsense from somebody else ad nauseum.

I've seen enough personal attacks by you against him and others, so what you're saying here seems kinda odd.

Maybe I dont get out much, but I havent seen the vicious attacks by Trancer that you've mentioned here. I heard something about Chill Out Forum with regards to Trancer, and if you have that in mind - dont bother, I cant stand that forum either.

I never said he's an angel, but YOU attack anyone who is 9/11 bound. Including me. I remember things pretty well. Actions like that are bound to have similar responses in return.

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