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Storyteller
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Registered: Feb 2005
Location: The Netherlands

Sorry for this harsh comment, BUT, based on what I've heard so far I don't think you're quite ready to call yourself pro or to go pro.

It can never be a bad thing. However going pro is a thing of the past. Only a lucky few are able to make a decent income out of music (which would be my definition of going pro). The more people you have around you in order to promote yourself, the better. Make sure they don't take the $ that belongs to you though .

Maybe I'm misinterpreting your post due to my definition of 'pro'.


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Old Post Mar-31-2009 06:25  Netherlands
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cronodevir
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Registered: Jul 2006
Location: Bum Fuck Nowhere

Making money with EDM music specifically is harder than winning the lottery. Its not like say a rock band or rapper.

Pretty much any company you go to will thoroughly RAPE you, and doing it yourself is way too much work for the little bit of reward you get. Unless you just pop up with a one hit wonder like testo or something, your not gonna make it I think. And even then, testo probably makes shit on his own music, rather he makes big bucks by DJing and stuff at big parties., Armin has the ASOT thing.

And I still doubt either of them drive around in a Rolls Royce, while some rappers could have 5 or 10 rolls royce's if they wanted.


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Subtle
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Urban Shakedown

Its funny also, how people do not take you seriously if you do not make cash on it.


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Kismet7
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Registered: Dec 2008
Location: earf

I think there needs to be a cutting down of trees in the area of bedroom producers with fruity loops or ableton who spend months trying to perfect one track, which might end up being good and might be worth listening to, but all there works goes to simply "getting the one track signed," and then after they realise its not that big of a deal because the label they signed the track to doesnt know the difference between a toilet and their shoe. So that little moment of success turns into, ok now i have enlist into slavery and churn out tracks that make very little, because shit label knows about as much as I do about selling music.

And these shitty labels need to bashed to no end, people spend a lot of time bashing artists, established artists, artists who are actually making great music, but ironically hardly anything is dished to the shitty labels who got off the banana they were sitting on and decided, "hey let me make a label, there are kids out there making music on computers, and I can put it out on beatport for almost no cost to me." These people should be taken to the back somewhere and slapped around a bit.

Which brings up the topic, ok so shit label wont help nubile 'artist' to actually make any money, so then it begins "i should start my own shit label, I even DJ'd a little"...fuck, the cycle repeats. I dont know, people need to be educated about the risks and rewards of both making music, and putting out music. And the whole vanity of it all has to be done away with. You released a track? Good for you, a week later...who gives a shit? If your going to make music, pour your heart into it, work on your craft, create good music, and then look for labels that will actually do something with your music, otherwise your wasting time if your ambition is anything outside of a great pastime or hobby. If its a great pasttime or hobby, keep making music, its the best thing you could be doing with free time that doesnt need to be used for a well lived functional life.


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Lolo
I play Trance no Dance



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Brussels, Belgium

so you wanna make a living out of your music??

If you think that you'll be able to live off your royalty shares and gigs, forget it. It's gonna take years until you get a tenth of your expectations. Or you'll get instantly famous, and I give you 12 months until you disappear.

That said there's plenty of music jobs that need a lot of people like us. Commercials, schools, whatever. Those jobs keep you humble at least. SO you can make a living out of it, but you have to forget about your dreams and expectations. Because the long long road isn't what you think it was.


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cryophonik
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Registered: Jan 2008
Location: Elk Grove, CA USA
Re: Going Pro

quote:
Originally posted by ********
So its sort of weird, I am finally at a natural state of seeing about running with the ball, putting together a production crew and making a release.

What does everyone think of this?

Is changing from a person who makes music as a passtime, to putting together a management crew, and working with agencies good or bad?

Opinions?


Do you have anything signed yet? If not, I'd suggest starting there. Try to get one or two songs signed to a decent label to help you get your name out there and get a taste of what to expect. Like everybody before has mentioned, your chances of earning a decent income off EDM releases are very small when you consider the countless bedroom producers out there with the same dreams, many of whom are more talented and experienced than you. So, keep your goals attainable and realistic, otherwise, you're going to be disappointed.

One last consideration, and I don't mean to sound condescending here, but what is your age? If you're 15-19, then you've probably got plenty of time and energy to pursue your dream and little to lose. But, as you reach your 20s and older, then I wouldn't recommend putting all your eggs in that basket - make sure that you are pursuing a high-probability career path as well (e.g., going to college/uni).


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Lolo
I play Trance no Dance



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Brussels, Belgium
Re: Re: Going Pro

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Do you have anything signed yet? If not, I'd suggest starting there. Try to get one or two songs signed to a decent label to help you get your name out there and get a taste of what to expect. Like everybody before has mentioned, your chances of earning a decent income off EDM releases are very small when you consider the countless bedroom producers out there with the same dreams, many of whom are more talented and experienced than you. So, keep your goals attainable and realistic, otherwise, you're going to be disappointed.

One last consideration, and I don't mean to sound condescending here, but what is your age? If you're 15-19, then you've probably got plenty of time and energy to pursue your dream and little to lose. But, as you reach your 20s and older, then I wouldn't recommend putting all your eggs in that basket - make sure that you are pursuing a high-probability career path as well (e.g., going to college/uni).


isn't that ashley wallbridge???


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Old Post Mar-31-2009 15:42  Belgium
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Storyteller
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nope.


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cryophonik
Boom shanka



Registered: Jan 2008
Location: Elk Grove, CA USA
Re: Re: Re: Going Pro

quote:
Originally posted by Lolo
isn't that ashley wallbridge???


Who? Me?


edit: Oh, nevermind - I take it you were asking if the OP (********) is actually ashley wallbridge (???). I have no idea. I'm certainly not ashley walbridge. I'm nobody.


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Lolo
I play Trance no Dance



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Brussels, Belgium

I'm nobody mate, juste like you :-)


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Zak McKracken
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IM nobody

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Subtle
Subreme tranceaddict



Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Urban Shakedown

quote:
Originally posted by Lolo
I'm nobody mate, juste like you :-)
At least you wrote Trance history.


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