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Devbert
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: California
What makes a Tune Progressive?

I've never fully understood what makes a trance song progressive.

A definition and some examples would be quite helpful.


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Old Post Mar-11-2002 05:43  United States
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litlitaly
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I think a progressive song is one which is layered. If you listen to a progressive song you can hear several layers of sound. I think there's more to it than that though but I can't explain it. Have been up all night doing a damn business report and can hardly string sentences together anymore!

For examples checkout anything by Airwave like 'Save Me' or their latest song 'Another Dimension'.


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Old Post Mar-11-2002 07:23  United Kingdom
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Great Outdoors
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Singapore

Progressive tracks start slow, and builds up and up but comes down to nothing, really. This has been discussed to death in the Crasher forum some time back- they didn't like prog because they think it builds up to nothing so it's a waste of time.
Don't get me wrong, I love progressive, it gets me in the mood, and to me it's kind of a high class categorisation of Electronic music- very moody, very deep. But some people just don't like it.


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keke
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Listen to some Global Underground series ! That called "GOOD Prograssive"


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oDrori
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kibbutz Gaash, home of all the light in Holyland

Globalunderground is your best example indeed... Progressive Trance = Deep Trance = Not the kinda Trance you would see yourself jumping like nuts to... it more of a flat- type of Trance...

That's why PvD's not @ GU...
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[DJK]
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Registered: Nov 2000
Location: Melbourne.au

Natious - Amber [Natious Mix]
Orbital - Nothing Left [Breeder Remix]

these two tracks kinda define what Progressive means in MY mind.

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Devbert
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: California

So then a perfect example of progressive would be either:

(Older) Sasha - Xpander [Extremely layered and growing]
(Newer) Push - Tranzy State of Mind (Club Mix) [Builds up then back down]

That sound about right?


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bluE_Neon
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Warsaw

i have learned that every gender has to be heard LIVE its not how you hear it in your car, in your home on your system...when its Live its totally different...so when i hear people say that progressive is boring and they dont like it, i already know that they didn't hear it Live and just dont understand it progressive is huge in UK, most talent comes from there, thats wat UK is knowed for and progressive is a sufficticated style of electronic gender..its not like trance, where the beat and rhythm is the same, where you can recognize the tune, progressive plays with your mind...progressive starts off nicely, never builds up, its just keeps on adding sounds to it
no need to say more


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Piet
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: billyburg, nyc

theres probably a better way but sometimes i think about the mood. Uplifting is not progressive, if the song is real uplifting then it is not progressive. If the song is deep, moody, it is more progressive.

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Michael Russo
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by litlitaly
I think a progressive song is one which is layered. If you listen to a progressive song you can hear several layers of sound. I think there's more to it than that though but I can't explain it. Have been up all night doing a damn business report and can hardly string sentences together anymore!

For examples checkout anything by Airwave like 'Save Me' or their latest song 'Another Dimension'.


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Originally posted by Devbert
So then a perfect example of progressive would be either:

(Older) Sasha - Xpander [Extremely layered and growing]
(Newer) Push - Tranzy State of Mind (Club Mix) [Builds up then back down]

That sound about right?


No... its hard to explain, but the best way to learn is to listen (as others have suggested). Listen to the deep dish global underground cd, and you'll come to realize the difference between trance and progressive house.

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biznology
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what i always hear after seeing a prog artist is: 'damn i wished i hadnt danced so much - he sucked'. it sounds stupid but its true. a prog artist uses the songs to build or break down a set, rather than letting the songs do the work themselves. this is the layered feel i believe. what you usually find is a dj that begins at a really slow bpm, maybe even as low as 90(hip hop) and then increasing it up to normal trance speed(145bpm). this is the variation, but with such different types of songs, speeds and sounds its def not boring if you are there...late/


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oDrori
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Registered: Dec 2001
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I define Xpander as Progressive....

I think if you speak directly:


Progressive Trance is Trance that gets closer to House and Progressive House is House that gets closer to Trance...


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