Woman tased multiple times after being handcuffed outside night club:

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

Last edited by shaolin_Z on Jun-08-2008 at 02:35

Woman being tased while restrained on ground:

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

Woman tased for complying with police, embeddeding feature removed by request: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSG1...feature=related

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

Justice is not with out a sense of irony:

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

What's your beef with the police?

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question, ShaolinZ. would you rather be tasered or pepper sprayed if given the choice?

i've had both done (for training purposes). the affects of being tasered last for only few seconds or as long as you're are being taserded. pepper lingers for hours. the pain is recurring and excruciating (most especially if it gets in the eyes) long after you've been decontaminated, long after the violator has been restrained or subdued

i ask this question because for decades no one seemed to give a damn about people being peppered and it's lingering affects after being subdued, and they still don't, but being tasered all of a sudden it's a capital crime

Neigther, unless some stupid cop has a desrie to be be permanently crippled.

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

quote:

Originally posted by Krypton What's your beef with the police?

I have a problem with abuse of power.

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by Q5echo question, ShaolinZ. would you rather be tasered or pepper sprayed if given the choice? i've had both done (for training purposes). the affects of being tasered last for only few seconds or as long as you're are being taserded. pepper lingers for hours. the pain is recurring and excruciating (most especially if it gets in the eyes) long after you've been decontaminated, long after the violator has been restrained or subdued i ask this question because for decades no one seemed to give a damn about people being peppered and it's lingering affects after being subdued, and they still don't, but being tasered all of a sudden it's a capital crime

no, i think he just lives in a land where every individual is just an awesome human being that never ever deserves the boot of the authorities.

the police altercations that i have seen in person always revolved around some piece of shit getting what they thoroughly deserved.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Neigther, unless some stupid cop has a desrie to be be permanently crippled.

So leave the cops with nothing?
Boy THAT world sounds safe...

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The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all change to silver glass...and then you see it...
...white shores...and beyond...the far green country under a swift sunrise."

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Woman being tased while restrained on ground:

i see nothing in that video that i have a problem with. do you have the longer version which shows a more complete "story" or do you merely provide a tiny snippet and expect us to draw conclusions from 60 seconds of information?

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I don't expect [insert arbitrary percentage here] people to draw any conclusions no matter how bad things get...

Warrantless searches and seizures... check
Spying on civilians... check
Ability to strip citizenship... check
Ability to declare anyone an enemy combatant by the President or Secretary of defense... check
Habeus Corpus nullified... check
Indefinitie detainment... check
Torture... including your children... check
Wars based on lies... check
Haliburton Concentration Camps... check
Check points... check

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller