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ziptnf
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Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Louisville, KY
Increasing BPM during a set

Hey all, I was wondering if anyone could give me some tips on how to gradually increase the BPM throughout a set. While you're beatmatching, your tracks have to be the same BPM, otherwise it sounds crappy. I suppose if you wait for the part of the track that has no beats you might be able to pull it off but something tells me it wouldn't work during a transition, and then increasing the speed during the track itself might sound a little too noticeable. Any suggestions?


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Tony Morello
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada

move the pitch slider towards the plus side

but really, as long as you do it in little increments over the course of your set or even over the course of a song, just not a big push at once, it won't be noticeable and will often add a little to the energy

doesn't really matter when you do it, if you're on the ball you can do it on the fly while beatmatching, or during a breakdown or even during a part where you have a beat going

it's all up to you, just do what sounds good and what works at the time


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DjWoody
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I do what he says. I increase it slowly throughout my set.

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ziptnf
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Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Louisville, KY

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Originally posted by Tony Morello
move the pitch slider towards the plus side

but really, as long as you do it in little increments over the course of your set or even over the course of a song, just not a big push at once, it won't be noticeable and will often add a little to the energy

doesn't really matter when you do it, if you're on the ball you can do it on the fly while beatmatching, or during a breakdown or even during a part where you have a beat going

it's all up to you, just do what sounds good and what works at the time

Sounds like good advice. Increasing during a breakdown seems like it would be the least noticeable of the three options you presented. I'm sure a 1-2% increase in BPM during a track would be relatively unnoticable.


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limin_li
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Cockeysville, Baltimore

you can do it little by little eg + 0.20 on each track and build from there or put on master tempo or key lock and just jack that pitch up. If you have Serato Scratch Live V 1.83 and above, you can do a lot without your audience give you the wtf face.


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Tony Morello
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quote:
Originally posted by ziptnf
Sounds like good advice. Increasing during a breakdown seems like it would be the least noticeable of the three options you presented. I'm sure a 1-2% increase in BPM during a track would be relatively unnoticable.


yea, 1-2% per track is pretty unnoticeable


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PivotTechno
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Registered: Feb 2008
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Hell, with the right track, you can pitch up or down +/-6 to great effect. Just pitch up/down the track a bit at a time and *listen* as you go - can move that much over the course of 20-30 seconds and still keep the floor moving. I love DJs who purposefully don't keep the tempo too linear - check the way someone like Jeff Mills goes from a 140 bpm banger to dropping in "Strings of Life", which probably clocks in and around 125.

Learn to improvise, you'll be surprised at what you come up with and where you'll end up going in your sets.


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Domesticated
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There's no need to do it during breakdowns, though that's fine too.

Just do it really, really slowly in the middle of the song when you aren't mixing. Over two minutes an extra 2 BPM is not going to be noticeably faster all of a sudden.

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tubby
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Registered: Jul 2002
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it can be noticable on string instruments, they warble a bit when you change pitch, but you figure out pretty quickly when you can get away with it and it's not noticable.

and over a couple of hours, bring the pace up, down, up again can be better than just starting slow and always getting faster

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noicuc
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Registered: Aug 2008
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Well sure you can , all you need to do is to wait for the kick drum to disappear and increase the BPM maybe by 0.8 , or straight to a 1 .

Slowly , everything will appear faster , without much people noticing it.


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ziptnf
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Originally posted by PivotTechno
Hell, with the right track, you can pitch up or down +/-6 to great effect. Just pitch up/down the track a bit at a time and *listen* as you go - can move that much over the course of 20-30 seconds and still keep the floor moving. I love DJs who purposefully don't keep the tempo too linear - check the way someone like Jeff Mills goes from a 140 bpm banger to dropping in "Strings of Life", which probably clocks in and around 125.

Learn to improvise, you'll be surprised at what you come up with and where you'll end up going in your sets.

Love that song, btw

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Thanks for the advice!


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Imagin
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Registered: Jul 2007
Location: Baltimore, Maryland

The math behind increasing BPM is if you cant go more than 1% in 30 seconds because most people aernt listening for the tempo change their brain wont process that its getting faster in slow increments.


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