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PlayerLac
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: inthe, USA
Live Guitar during Gigs

Hey Guys! Recently I got a gig playing at a bar Friday nights. I've been doing some collab work with my friend and I just wanted to get your guys opinion on what you thought of doing something like this live. Check it out, and give me some feedback! Positive or negative of course =].

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHUFciobKwg

the song he is playing over is Stonebridge - Put Em High (andrey vakulenko and roman may remix)

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Ted Promo
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Can this be my goal??!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3U0mtLt884

pretty soon imo

It can be done, just don't have the guitarist wayyy far away making him/her look like they're in a high school talent show. I also think track selection would get a bit tricky.

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david.michael
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Dayton, OH, USA

I have a tendency to start improvising on my piano when I have buds over to mix and it's their turn

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n3lly
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Registered: May 2003
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I'll be honest, i didn't think this would work but it actually does!!

I really like it. Would have to watch out though that it wasn't done too often i'd think. Maybe a few songs per set etc, An additional element if you wish. but not a constant as i think it could detract from the music if he jammed along for too long.

nelly

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Tony Morello
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada

i have a friend that does this as his side project with another one of my friends

it's actually really good, i'll track down the mix they did and post it up


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WithoutAngles
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Registered: Apr 2009
Location: Toronto, Canada

On certain occasions I'm a huge fan of live drums during sets, never heard guitar up until now and that was pretty sweet I must say.

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Tony Morello
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tada!

http://www.basslinedjs.com/audio/Ba...os_-_Improv.zip

live guitar with electro house


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PlayerLac
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quote:
I'll be honest, i didn't think this would work but it actually does!! I really like it. Would have to watch out though that it wasn't done too often i'd think. Maybe a few songs per set etc, An additional element if you wish. but not a constant as i think it could detract from the music if he jammed along for too long. nelly


Basically we've decided that he will play three songs in a row in the set. I've already chosen the tracks so he has a guideline of what he'll be playing.

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tada! http://www.basslinedjs.com/audio/Ba...os_-_Improv.zip live guitar with electro house


awesome! this sounds like almost exactly what we're trying to do!

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Stu Cox
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Southampton, UK

One thing you might want to watch out for...

Having something live like that takes the focus off the dancefloor. While it's quite a nice showpiece (like in the Armin video), everyone ends up staring at the live act rather than dancing. Club music's designed to keep people dancing fairly constantly and while having a break for a track can work while you do something like that, doing it too much can make a set very stop-start.

Think about an indie gig - people dance for a bit (particularly if they know the track), stop for bits to watch guitar solos, stop in between tracks... it's all a lot less fluid but there's generally a lot more going on onstage to keep it interesting. Some people prefer that, but remember in a club people generally expect fluidity and if people feel they should be standing there watching a live piece rather than dancing, they will and if it goes on too much they'll just get bored because they don't feel they can dance to it.

There are of course exceptions - percussionists just hammering away for most of the night can easily blend into the background as it's a background instrument. A guitar can be too, but the balance needs to be right.

You've said you'll only do it for a few tracks anyway which is cool, but it's worth bearing in mind to make sure you don't kill an otherwise really good atmosphere.

Also, in that video you're playing a fairly big track a lot of people will recognise so you also want to make sure the guitar doesn't swamp the bit people will recognise and sing along to. Get the balance right and people will go "Ah yeah it's this tune! Wow, live guitar as well, awesome!"

Just my tuppence worth.


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Tony Morello
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada

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Originally posted by Stu Cox
One thing you might want to watch out for...

Having something live like that takes the focus off the dancefloor. While it's quite a nice showpiece (like in the Armin video), everyone ends up staring at the live act rather than dancing. Club music's designed to keep people dancing fairly constantly and while having a break for a track can work while you do something like that, doing it too much can make a set very stop-start.

Think about an indie gig - people dance for a bit (particularly if they know the track), stop for bits to watch guitar solos, stop in between tracks... it's all a lot less fluid but there's generally a lot more going on onstage to keep it interesting. Some people prefer that, but remember in a club people generally expect fluidity and if people feel they should be standing there watching a live piece rather than dancing, they will and if it goes on too much they'll just get bored because they don't feel they can dance to it.

There are of course exceptions - percussionists just hammering away for most of the night can easily blend into the background as it's a background instrument. A guitar can be too, but the balance needs to be right.

You've said you'll only do it for a few tracks anyway which is cool, but it's worth bearing in mind to make sure you don't kill an otherwise really good atmosphere.

Also, in that video you're playing a fairly big track a lot of people will recognise so you also want to make sure the guitar doesn't swamp the bit people will recognise and sing along to. Get the balance right and people will go "Ah yeah it's this tune! Wow, live guitar as well, awesome!"

Just my tuppence worth.


you'd be surprised

the bass riff bros in the mix i posted actually get the crowd dancing harder, it's not often i see people stop to watch, and they go live for a whole set


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Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
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Corderoy (Sweetest Dreams) used to do this all the time. If you are going to do this then your guitarist has to be really good.

Also in order for this to work I would recomend that you have a few rehearsed tracks that actually work. As a guitarist/bassist myself I freaking hate when people improv to dancemusic and do it badly.

But none the less it's not a bad idea and can get peoples attention.

~Cheers
Nem


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