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RickyM
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Over produced tracks

Often wondered what exactly people meant when they referred to a track being over produced; anyone got examples of a track that they think is over produced?


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Adam420
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Well most trance music, for example.


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Levels is...decent...damn better than a lot of the shite dominating the charts at the moment. It sounds absolutely nothing like...a billion and one similar tracks in this big-room style. I always had a soft spot.

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I've seen the term used for two types of tracks. One is the kind of track that is simply crammed full of a horde of musical elements to achieve an impact, often to cover up a lack of real substance.

The other is the kind of track that sounds so clinical, polished and squeaky-clean that the efforts towards getting a 100% perfectly produced track takes away the "soul", for lack of a better term. Kind of how photos of women that are to be used for ads and magazines nowadays are so glossy and photoshopped that they no longer look like real women, but rather a computer-generated idealization.

Obviously this is a subjective term, but modern drum n bass in particular is quite guilty of this. I remember Blackdown mentioning how a guy from E-Z Rollers said that he had worked on tuning and polishing a single snare hit for almost a whole week, as if that was some sort of accolade.


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Most modern trance is massively over-produced. I think it was Arksun who said on TA that an average trance track uses around 100 channels in the sequencer. That's a hundred layers of shit going on in the music. Why?


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quote:
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Most modern trance is massively over-produced. I think it was Arksun who said on TA that an average trance track uses around 100 channels in the sequencer. That's a hundred layers of shit going on in the music. Why?


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All mnml tracks are massively over produced.


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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Most modern trance is massively over-produced. I think it was Arksun who said on TA that an average trance track uses around 100 channels in the sequencer. That's a hundred layers of shit going on in the music. Why?
No way that this is normal.


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SYSTEM-J
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He might have said 60 is average, but 100 is not uncommon. Either way, it was a "Jesus, fuck" number.


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quote:
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Most modern trance is massively over-produced. I think it was Arksun who said on TA that an average trance track uses around 100 channels in the sequencer. That's a hundred layers of shit going on in the music. Why?


They're not all playing at once though.


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SYSTEM-J
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quote:
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They're not all playing at once though.


If we're talking about an eight minute track in a genre known for repetition, how many unique melodies, basslines and percussion patterns are there going to be?


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This gives some insight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overproduction_%28music%29


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By wiki's definition I'd say 90% of all music today is over produced.


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