Thanks Eric! Very intesting!

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Its rather ignorant of this producer to go without a identity and image. Its like "hey look at me...I have no identity"

Even Producers like Redshape and Burial (prior to coming out) created images for themselves that people associate to their music when they need to recall an image, yet no "identity". And that image is actually many times more memorable and commercially viable than someone who just uses their face.

In Function's case...wild guess here but im thinking he can go without an identity because hes probably already financially secure through parents, family, trust fund, inheritance, another well paying job, and having no identity does'nt affect him much. If this Producer was poor struggling artist...it would be hard to maintain a identity less art ambition.

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one could argue that the very ideology behind not having an "identity" is an identity in and of itself, which makes the whole concept kinda cliche and ironic.

i'm intrigued about how they liken themselves to the purist punk rock scene from the 80s and 90s, and i like the idea of "letting the music speak for itself," but i think their whole agenda is deluded and hypocritical.

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“The point is, the focus is not on the artist but on the music”

yet here they are on a popular, commercialized online EDM record shop performing an interview with the artists who supposedly choose to be nameless, and then drop the names of themselves and others while generating publicity and notoriety for their work. i understand why they need to do so but it's totally contradictory to what their unwritten "manifesto" (if you will) is all about.

this is the same type of attitude that generates the elitist hipster-wankers in the EDM community and i think that a certain few people shouldn't take their shit so fuckin seriously. in the end i think this whole deal is a marketing ploy. the unnamed, "purist" artists, the plain sleeves and vinyl print, and this hypocritical interview.

focusing just as hard on not having an identity is just as artificial as the pop stars they criticize. The sad part is that the greater part of the world wouldn't care about these guys even if they did reveal their identity. I no really little about their situation but to me, it almost seems like an unconscious caveat for not being quite good enough to generate enough interest to even tempt one to be a star.

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Originally posted by RichieV focusing just as hard on not having an identity is just as artificial as the pop stars they criticize. The sad part is that the greater part of the world wouldn't care about these guys even if they did reveal their identity. I no really little about their situation but to me, it almost seems like an unconscious caveat for not being quite good enough to generate enough interest to even tempt one to be a star.

well its better than that watered down cookie cutter trance shit that has been coming out you probably love! did you even read the article?

besides, who cares about what a "greater part of the world" thinks about their music? people are notorious for horrible taste in music. the "greater part of the world" listen to pop and terrible shit, so how is this relevant to underground music?

Trance is a farcry from "underground music"

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Originally posted by Evolve140 well its better than that watered down cookie cutter trance shit that has been coming out you probably love! did you even read the article? besides, who cares about what a "greater part of the world" thinks about their music? people are notorious for horrible taste in music. the "greater part of the world" listen to pop and terrible shit, so how is this relevant to underground music?

my point wasn't about aesthetics, I doesn't matter if it is good or bad, my point is that there really is nothing noble in being unseen with no identity when nobody really cares about you in the first place. To me, it is as ridiculous as me walking around with a newspaper on my face trying to avoid paparazzi because I somehow think i'm being underground. I am underground because I'm not Brad Pitt and nobody wants to take a picture of me. I don't have to try and be underground. Everyone is underground until enough people care about you.

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Originally posted by RichieV my point wasn't about aesthetics, I doesn't matter if it is good or bad, my point is that there really is nothing noble in being unseen with no identity when nobody really cares about you in the first place. To me, it is as ridiculous as me walking around with a newspaper on my face trying to avoid paparazzi because I somehow think i'm being underground. I am underground because I'm not Brad Pitt and nobody wants to take a picture of me. I don't have to try and be underground. Everyone is underground until enough people care about you.

The reason one would not want to be known is because fame puts a person is great danger of becoming arrogant. Avoiding any situation where arrogance could occur is pretty noble in my book. What did you think the point of "being humble" was?

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You really think someone making underground music perhaps putting more effort in his non identity than his music an act of humbleness ? The point is that he is a nobody , so why even conceal an identity nobody even cares about. Would you not find it a little weird/psycho if I went to the super market because i was being underground and didn't' want people to recognize me. They won't recognize me because I'm not famous and unless you are famous, concealing your identity is an act of lunacy. It was cool when daft punk did it but this is just silly.

If you are already known, then isn't it too late? Many people don't want "yeah, i'm the shit" in their minds, and even a little bit of fame can bring that upon a person. The ones trying to hide their identity, also don't try to make it obvious they are hiding it. Some people attempt to hide it in order to get famous.

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Originally posted by sixofour.604 The ones trying to hide their identity, also don't try to make it obvious they are hiding it. Some people attempt to hide it in order to get famous.

Don't you think that article made it pretty clear that they are telling the world they are hiding it ? The article has the word identity, there is a picture of a person without his head. Why take a picture at all ?