cut like -3 to -6db from 250-300hz. boost around 15khz. highpass all below 32hz at least.

now itll sound thin and weak

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If you want to overcome muddiness you have to cut almost every channel that isnt bass - lead sounds, effects, cymbals, snares and everything.
Sometimes you may want to keep some low frequencies on certain sounds, but only if you are sure it sounds better.

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Parametric EQ 2 is a bunch of colors and wavy lines that just take up space and don't do anything special. Parametric EQ does the same stuff in a much smaller window. PEQ > PEQ 2, imo.

As for your question, just raise or lower the bar and it will raise or lower that specific frequency range. I don't want to make it seem like I'm saying you're dumb or anything but it's a pretty simple concept to understand. As for muddiness, just cut out the mids a bit cuz they suck anyway. Or since you have FL Studio you might have Soundgoodizer, just mess around with that and it kind of does it for you. I've found that putting it on the master channel makes the song sound fuller if you use A then raise/lower to where you think it sounds good. B sucks and I still haven't formed an opinion on C and D.

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Originally posted by floyd741 Parametric EQ 2 is a bunch of colors and wavy lines that just take up space and don't do anything special. Parametric EQ does the same stuff in a much smaller window. PEQ > PEQ 2, imo. As for your question, just raise or lower the bar and it will raise or lower that specific frequency range. I don't want to make it seem like I'm saying you're dumb or anything but it's a pretty simple concept to understand. As for muddiness, just cut out the mids a bit cuz they suck anyway. Or since you have FL Studio you might have Soundgoodizer, just mess around with that and it kind of does it for you. I've found that putting it on the master channel makes the song sound fuller if you use A then raise/lower to where you think it sounds good. B sucks and I still haven't formed an opinion on C and D.

peq2 works very similar to the waves plugins where you can drag the eq points to suit rather than havint to alter every parameter seperately. a very good tool imo

soundgoodizer won't be helping your mixdown at all. it's essentially a very simple version of the maximus plugin. working on the actual mixdown is far more important

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I find the spectrum analyzer and click-and-drag EQ points of Parametric EQ 2 to be very handy, IMO. I didn't switch to it until a few weeks ago, but now that I finally did, I'm rather enjoying it.

ok thank you all for the help but i have a question

how would i go about cutting/boosting to 200-300khz and these kind of numbers (i.e. eqing the kick to get more punch)

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Originally posted by phoooo ok thank you all for the help but i have a question how would i go about cutting/boosting to 200-300khz and these kind of numbers (i.e. eqing the kick to get more punch)

On PEQ2 it tells you the frequency by the eq band number that you drag on the left. It also tells you the amount of decibels you have altered the sound. You can use the knobs on the right to fine tune the frequency of the band and how wide or narrow it is. You can also change the band type at the top of the right part of the window.

All this will be explained in the manual

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Originally posted by phoooo ok thank you all for the help but i have a question how would i go about cutting/boosting to 200-300khz and these kind of numbers (i.e. eqing the kick to get more punch)

A much better way to give the kick more punch is to invest in a decent sample CD/ set and choose the kick which has the sound you want. Much faster than trying to fix a less than optimal kick, and will sound a lot better too. The kick should sound fine without processing. If it doesn't, it's either the wrong kick, or the wrong sounds around it.

In terms of using EQ, most EQs will have graphical displays which show frequencies - low frequencies to the left, high frequencies to the right. Most EQs will also have a control allowing you to cut or boost at a particular frequency. You should be able to quickly get a feel for what EQs do by running sound through one - adjust the frequency and cut/boost and listen to what it does.

ok thank you all for the help i will try to keep my mix as clean as possible with the advice

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Originally posted by floyd741 I don't want to make it seem like I'm saying you're dumb or anything but it's a pretty simple concept to understand. As for muddiness, just cut out the mids a bit cuz they suck anyway. Or since you have FL Studio you might have Soundgoodizer, just mess around with that and it kind of does it for you. I've found that putting it on the master channel makes the song sound fuller if you use A then raise/lower to where you think it sounds good. B sucks and I still haven't formed an opinion on C and D.

And "I don't want to make it seem like I'm saying YOU'RE dumb or anything" but wtf are you talking about?

"Mids suck". Ok, I understand thats your opinion, but in trance mids are the magic that makes everything glow as its the most audible to the human ear.
Most running bass lines will have the mids boosted through the roof just so you can hear the bass.
A lot of leads sound a lot stronger with the mids boosted, and never mind hats and snares. Mids is always where its at. So mids imo are the most important detail to get right in a track.
And mids is usually where I run out of headroom first.

Not only that, but mids (I'm talking about above 150hz) do not make a mix muddy, bass does.
Where did you ever get that idea?


And show me one track that sounds "better" with soundgoodizer thrown over the master. You will rape the entire track and squash the living shit out of the dynamics. Thats probably one of the worst things you can do.

Soundgoodizer will bring sounds out in a track but you need to treat them individually and most likely BEFORE an equalizer in a chain. If you cut lows from a bass, then throw SG over it you'll bring the lows right back up. I can't even imagine the hundreds of detrimental things you would do throwing it on the master.

And yeh the "concept" of equalizing I'd agree is simple. (which seems to be the only point I agree on) but the PRACTICE of equalizing is not. Not even for a lot of pros. They can fiddle around with knobs for days before hitting the frequency sweet spot. The OP obviously gets the concept as hes already knows what he should be doing, he just doesn't understand the practice.

So no, its not simple.
And you do sound condenscending. Because you had to twist his post around just to come off sounding more knowledgeable, when it absolutely doesn't appear that way at all.

"Not trying to make you sound dumb".. please

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