It looks coooool is all I can tell you, i'm wondering if Guitar Center has it on demo, might make a stop next to check it out next time in the valley.

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The Guitar Center in Fountain Valley has one in the demo studio.

If you're not using Live and don't already have drumpads, then go for the maschine.

BUT

If you're using Live, go for the APC40. My reasons:

- fully integrated with live (duh)
- fully customizable with max patches (just like any hardware but max for live is going to make it easier I presume)
- 100 bucks less expensive than the maschine
- the apc40 can act as a drumpad too
- many many more reasons... just watch the videos

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Thanks for the response ponsshin, but I'm definitely not interested in the APC40. A friend of mine has one and it looks very ggod for what it does, but I want something that is more of a drum controller/groove box/production station and has sampling abilities. Plus, I really hate the APC's pads. I'll be using this mostly in Sonar. That said, looking at the Maschine videos, I see that it comes with a template that will allow you to do much of what the APC will do in terms of integrating with Live. So, Maschine is definitely a no-brainer in those regard. But, thanks anyway - do you have Maschine?

The Guitar Center here has Maschine on display and they're holding one for me. I'm going there after work to check it out and, if it's as cool as it seems, I'm going to have a very fun weekend.

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Really interested in what the sound library is like too. Should be good considering it a few GBs.

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My guitar center only had the software portion of it on display (lame, eh?) and even then it was only in VST/AU mode.

I've read many reviews/watched many videos of Maschine and it seems to be overwhelmingly common consensus that the thing is well put together. The sample library seems to be usable, with some high caliber EDM samples (though a lot wouldn't probably meet your standards ((nor mine)). Right now, on its current status, it's poorly integrated with DAWs, with no MIDI control (meaning no automation of any of its parameters via your DAW).

BUT, it's being patched in the relatively new future, which is something I've been monitoring for the past few months. The list of updates includes:

MIDI Out Mode for sounds
MIDI In for sounds and groups
Drag-and-Drop audio export for scenes and patterns in host
Record and trigger scenes switches via MIDI notes in host
Scene retrigger option in plugin mode
Loading groups without patterns
Additional slicing sizes (1/8th etc.)
REX file import
Scene naming
Adjustable metronome volume
Record Count-In option
Quick adjustment of group and sound volumes on controller

I'm going to see how the new patch goes down. There was quite a few unhappy posts wihtin the first month or so of Maschine's release, with the main issue being people dissatisfied with its integration in their DAW.

On the positive, it seems to be incredibly fun and many seem to find themselves ' get[ting]lost in the flow' (its cheesy but apparently true tagline)

EDIT:

The update is now in the beta-testing stage...it had been in development for a significant period of time, so I imagine it's relatively close to being released.

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I feel like its about 200$ over the price of what i'd be willing to pay for it. But I generally feel that way about most native instruments products.

def looks interesting though!

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Good info psymon.d - thanks for that! I actually went ahead and picked it up this evening and spent the last few hours installing it (along with a dozen other updates for other plugs). From what I've seen so far, this thing is totally cool and very intelligently laid-out. It's so nice to have dedicated controls for everything and have the ability to do virtually everything from the hardware, including browsing my samples! And, it's so easy to try out different drum samples right from the hardware. I should've never wasted my time Guru and BPM.

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Originally posted by cryophonik Good info psymon.d - thanks for that! I actually went ahead and picked it up this evening and spent the last few hours installing it (along with a dozen other updates for other plugs). From what I've seen so far, this thing is totally cool and very intelligently laid-out. It's so nice to have dedicated controls for everything and have the ability to do virtually everything from the hardware, including browsing my samples! And, it's so easy to try out different drum samples right from the hardware. I should've never wasted my time Guru and BPM.

No worries--happy someone on TA bought it to give it a go

I'm still thinking about getting it...I currently use Guru for my beat programming, but the integration with the hardware just looks so much more natural. I'm going to wait until the patch though.


But you should post some samples eventually

EDIT:

Dammit. Whilst installing Komplete 5, I've started watching videos of some people jamming on Maschine. Looks too fun.

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Cryo let me know how it works with sonar. I'm thinking of getting one next month.

Cryo, could you do a mini review when you get a moment?

Thanks