I think Ableton is the easiest of all to learn, it took me 30 seconds to learn sidechain for example.

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Ableton doesn't really have a learning curve, and the manual can answer any questions you need. But be sure that you're not replacing excuses about VST vs hardware for excuses revolving around Fl vs ableton.

FL has its disadvantages, but its more than capable of making a decent track. Still, a change is as good as a holiday, so have a crack with ableton and see how it goes.

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Originally posted by Subtle I think Ableton is the easiest of all to learn, it took me 30 seconds to learn sidechain for example.

I think the biggest issue with people running into Ableton is people not understanding that by default Ableton doesn't give you the best sound quality.

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Originally posted by Beatflux ... that by default Ableton doesn't give you the best sound quality.

What do you mean with that?

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Originally posted by Beatflux I think the biggest issue with people running into Ableton is people not understanding that by default Ableton doesn't give you the best sound quality.

You mean the default warp settings ?

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Originally posted by kitphillips Ableton doesn't really have a learning curve, and the manual can answer any questions you need. But be sure that you're not replacing excuses about VST vs hardware for excuses revolving around Fl vs ableton. FL has its disadvantages, but its more than capable of making a decent track. Still, a change is as good as a holiday, so have a crack with ableton and see how it goes.

Yeh thats something I will def have to watch out for.

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Originally posted by Beatflux I think the biggest issue with people running into Ableton is people not understanding that by default Ableton doesn't give you the best sound quality.

I agree. For me it takes more work to get things sounding as I want them to in Ableton than it would in Renoise or Cubase - even though I use the same sample/plugin resources for all of them. However in Cubase I work slow because I never really took the time to get into it properly. Luckily there is Renoise.

I always had a feeling Ableton did something strange with the sound. I've never used ableton after v5 though.

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Originally posted by Subtle I think Ableton is the easiest of all to learn, it took me 30 seconds to learn sidechain for example.

I could only hope its that easy for me. I will admit I'm a slow learner (def not a dummy though lol) but once I learn something I never forget it.

Guess we'll see how it goes!

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Ableton is by far the easiest prog to learn. Ive bought 7 LE download-version (almost free in USD), and i like it alot. THought the LE is very limited but im only using it for loops in the clip-view so far. Planning to use it to livestuff, not arranging or do entire mixdowns.

This may help u, helped me at one time!
http://www.ableton.com/pages/movies/archive/tutorial

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Originally posted by cArAcH0 What do you mean with that?

There's a lot of little things you can do to improve the sound quality.

-Change the internal recording to 32 bit
-Don't warp unless you don't mind the grit
-Turn off "fade" in clip view, introduces a 4 ms fade
-Enable Hi-Q mode in the clip view
-Adding groove in Ableton 7 does this by warping the track
-Right click the top of EQ8 box and enable Hi-Quality Mode
-Reverb has three options for it's quality

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