i was listening to my little sisters hard dance cd coming out of her bedroom. I used to be into UK hard house/trance in a big way 2004/5 went to all the clubs used to work for some of the nights in ibiza everyhting. Anyway 2002-2005 uk hard house/trance had a sound a sort of pop under the kick thraping melodies and massive epic trance sounds with charicteristic hard bass lines.

Now it sounds like slightly slower hardcore music and way way cheesier.

is it just that I am older and dont do drugs anymore! and the genre has left me behind or do all dance genres change so significantly that they are almost unrecognisable 4-5 years on?

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Yeah I used to be a hard trance / hard house / hardstyle freak and even though I have grown out of it I will still enjoy an oldschool thumping track every now and then. But yeah I agree, for some reason, no matter how many elements of a new track in the above mentioned genres are similar to some of my old faves I can't get in to them at all. I think the genres have been done to death. Even the top DJs and producers have tamed down their new stuff as I'm sure even they are getting sick of the sound.

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their is still producers out there making the harder shit just not very many making something really worth listening to.
and with no real innovation left in the genre people get bored and move on.

I heard Happy Hardcore was making a come back in eastern parts of Europe. Good lord I hope that is not true.

Have you noticed the policemen getting younger?

i wonder if it is just my nostalgia that i hear in the pre 2005 tunes. Seriously though hard house/trances seems just to be slower happy hardcore not when it certainly wasnt back then. Now every second tune is a voice over saying "are you ready to haaaaavve ittttt" or "Come ooooon leetss paaaaarty" with cheesy mc vocal things too.

I liked it when tidy trax ruled the roost and vicous circle were huge.

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Just look at the evolution of trance for an example. In the early 1990s it was mostly the harsh or spacey acid stuff. By 2000 it was mostly supersaws and airy female vocals. Genres can change a lot quite quickly.

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Originally posted by Sonic_c i wonder if it is just my nostalgia that i hear in the pre 2005 tunes. Seriously though hard house/trances seems just to be slower happy hardcore not when it certainly wasnt back then. Now every second tune is a voice over saying "are you ready to haaaaavve ittttt" or "Come ooooon leetss paaaaarty" with cheesy mc vocal things too. I liked it when tidy trax ruled the roost and vicous circle were huge.

Don't know how you, or anybody, could stand that stuff. Anything above 140 bpm makes me want to run my fingernails against a chalk board and shove bamboo sticks under my toe nails.

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Originally posted by Sonic_c i wonder if it is just my nostalgia that i hear in the pre 2005 tunes.

Maybe.

My favorite dance music tends to be from an era that I didn't even experience, 1990 - 1998 or so. I started getting into EDM around 1999 when epic trance was really blowing up, but I feel less fondness for the tracks of that era than I do for ones that came out earlier, although I do love a lot of prog trance from about 1999 - 2002 or so. Can you have nostalgia for something you weren't there to hear originally?

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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley Don't know how you, or anybody, could stand that stuff. Anything above 140 bpm makes me want to run my fingernails against a chalk board and shove bamboo sticks under my toe nails.

Lol most ravers were high maybe thats why

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I used to be into LA/Chicago Hardhouse back in the 90's. I been noticing that it's coming back Lately I been mixing newer stuff with old hardhouse and it works! Some new songs that sound like the old LA/Chicago Hardhouse are by Afrojack and LMFAO like Sexy Bitch (Afrojack Remix), Moombah (Afrojack Remix), Boom Boom Pow (LMFAO Partyrockers Remix), Let The Bass Kick, etc.

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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley I heard Happy Hardcore was making a come back in eastern parts of Europe. Good lord I hope that is not true.

Hardcore(UK) is the biggest genre in the UK at the moment, every chav and his pitbull love it here.