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SYSTEM-J
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Producers: Help me with your knowledge

I want to know what this sound is, and how it's done: http://www.jack-moss.com/arpeggio.mp3. As a music reviewer I try and use the right terms for sounds, and calling this an "arpeggio" doesn't really describe its distinct sound.


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MrJiveBoJingles
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Sorry, that is definitely an arpeggio, with lots of delay.

I was trying to emulate this sound the other day, oddly enough. Couldn't get it very close...

It is playing G, Gb, D, B in descending order (in "Set in Stone").

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Subtle
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a pulse wave arpeggio ?


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Beatflux
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Re: Producers: Help me with your knowledge

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I want to know what this sound is, and how it's done: http://www.jack-moss.com/arpeggio.mp3. As a music reviewer I try and use the right terms for sounds, and calling this an "arpeggio" doesn't really describe its distinct sound.


The fast moving melodies sound like arpeggios to me. In the 2nd and 4th one it sounds like they fiddled around with the chord rhythm.

The producer lays down a series of stacked notes down(chords), and then the synthesizer plays them in a certain pattern one by one that usually repeats.


What's the song that comes 2nd before last?


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SYSTEM-J
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The tracks are:

Bedrock - Set In Stone
Sasha - Magic (Blue Amazon Remix)
Sasha & BT - Heart Of Imagination
Bubble - The Bubble (Suck Ma Bass Mix)

I know it's an arpeggio, and I know what an arpeggio is. Not all arpeggios sound like this, though, and just putting a sustained chord through an arpeggiator on FL or what-have-you won't produce this rolling sound.

All these tracks are from 1995 or 1996, and this was quite a common element in progressive house tracks from that era. To me, it seems that someone (probably Richard Dekkard) figured out how to produce this distinctive arpeggio sound and it became a common sound of the period.

Maybe it's the particular chord being used. Which chord is G, F#, D & B?


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MrJiveBoJingles
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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
The tracks are:

Bedrock - Set In Stone
Sasha - Magic (Blue Amazon Remix)
Sasha & BT - Heart Of Imagination
Bubble - The Bubble (Suck Ma Bass Mix)

I know it's an arpeggio, and I know what an arpeggio is. Not all arpeggios sound like this, though, and just putting a sustained chord through an arpeggiator on FL or what-have-you won't produce this rolling sound.

All these tracks are from 1995 or 1996, and this was quite a common element in progressive house tracks from that era. To me, it seems that someone (probably Richard Dekkard) figured out how to produce this distinctive arpeggio sound and it became a common sound of the period.

Maybe it's the particular chord being used. Which chord is G, F#, D & B?

B Minor triad (B, D, F#) with added sixth (G). The track itself is in E Minor, so the arpeggio is based on the fifth scale degree (B).

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SYSTEM-J
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All of which means nothing to me.


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MrJiveBoJingles
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Location: U.S.

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
All of which means nothing to me.

E Minor scale goes like this:

E, F#, G, A, B, C, D

Each note is also labeled in Roman numerals by a scale degree, E being I, F# being II, G being iii, etc. In E Minor, the note B is the fifth scale degree or "dominant." It is one "fifth" interval up from the "root" or "home" note, E.

A basic minor triad chord is built by playing:

Root note (I) + iii + fifth (V)

So E Minor triad is played: E, G, B.

B Minor triad is: B, D, F#

The arpeggio uses the B minor triad, plus G, which is a minor sixth interval above the note B.

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lay
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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Munich, Germany

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
All of which means nothing to me.

I can feel with you
I'm currently into learning more about basic music theory. I wrote a little windows app, to display given scales.
Here is a screenshot:



The app can be downloaded here: (Microsoft .NET Framework is required)
http://www.lay-music.com/apps/KeyboardHelper.zip

Maybe this is helping you or anybody else.

Cheers

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Zak McKracken
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first track sounds familiar which one is it?

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MrJiveBoJingles
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quote:
Originally posted by palm
first track sounds familiar which one is it?

Bedrock - "Set In Stone", as said above...

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