i also never actually listened to anything on a expensive pair of headphones so i don't know what i am missing out on yet.

their's is no rules as to what output to play and hear music on/ with it's just considerd best to use the right gear if you can

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Originally posted by LoveHate so what do yo guys think?

i think this is moronic.

the whole point in using good speakers/headphones is to hear and control details you wouldn't notice on poor speakers/headphones.

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Originally posted by floyd741 i think echosystm is a pretty cool guy. eh pwns robby rox and doesn't afraid of anything.

My instinct says don't bother even trying (even though you already do )

I have two sets of headphones at home, one is a pair of Audio-Technica ATH-M40s (about $100) and the other is some random Maplin/Radioshack set of rubbish. The M40s are considered good studio cans, although by no means the best. They do allow me to hear a great deal of detail in my mixes, don't hype the top or bottom end and anything I do on them sounds 'nearly there' and usually good on ANY other system.

The cheap cans make commercial stuff sound good, and also make me think my own stuffs top and bottom end sound good. When I listen to mixes made on those on other systems they always sound poor.

Now some will argue that all you have to do is get used to whatever you're using. My arguement is that I can theoretically drive using my feet on the wheel and my hands on the pedals. But I don't.

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It's fine you're messing around with ear buds, but why even bother sending it to a label? What do you mean "mixing"?

ive produced on all kinds of shitty headfones and all that i end up with is headache and shitty sounding tracks. and in one case tinnitus (v700dj)

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Originally posted by palm ive produced on all kinds of shitty headfones and all that i end up with is headache and shitty sounding tracks. and in one case tinnitus (v700dj)

yeah, I made this mistake of producing on MDR-V700s for 2 years, and it totally fucked up my ears to this day. just live with the discomfort now...

"If it sounds good on a shit system...then you know its a good track" - Armin

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Originally posted by DJ_Rafnel "If it sounds good on a shit system...then you know its a good track" - Armin

Yes, absolutely, check it on a cheap/low quality system and make sure it sounds as good as possible on it. But don't mix on something which sounds terrible, because you won't be able to hear the necessary detail in order to get things sounding good on it.

Okay, theoretically it may be possible to get it sounding good on a system which doesn't let you hear all the details, but it will be a quicker process on a higher quality system, and a better process - it'll still sound as good on the low quality system, but will "translate" better to other systems - car stereos, high end hifis and so on.

Headphone mixing is horrible and rarely, if ever, translates right no matter how used to the sound of the headphones you are using.

Mix aloud then check on headphones, other systems, etc.

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Originally posted by meriter Your primary focus should be making good music. That's all. No one gives a shit how you do it. And the people that do are fags.