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R.j.
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Registered: Feb 2004
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cockney rhyming slang.

Cockney English is also characterized by its own special vocabulary and usage in the form of "cockney rhyming slang". The way it works is that you take a pair of associated words where the second word rhymes with the word you intend to say, then use the first word of the associated pair to indicate the word you originally intended to say. Some rhymes have been in use for years and are very well recognized, if not used, among speakers of other accents.

Examples:

"apples and pears" – stairs
"plates of meat" – feet


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Somebody please explain more thoroughly, or correct the given explanation if it's wrong. I honestly don't get it.


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What is it that you got Pete Tong?


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R.j.
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What is it that you got Pete Tong?


That's too easy!

Anyway, how in the world does 'apples' indicate stairs?


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It's just 2 words, the second of which rhymes with the single word they're meant to replace.

Trouble and Strife = Wife

Dog and Bone = Phone

Etc.


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Lira
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quote:
Originally posted by R.j.
That's too easy!

Anyway, how in the world does 'apples' indicate stairs?

Huh? "Apples and pears" just rhymes with "stairs", there's no semantic correlation whatsoever.


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R.j.
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It's just 2 words, the second of which rhymes with the single word they're meant to replace.

Trouble and Strife = Wife

Dog and Bone = Phone

Etc.


So in the case of 'apples and pears' 'apples' has no other function than being an associated item with pears?

The only reason I'm stumped is because of this part of the explanation I originally posted:

quote:

, then use the first word of the associated pair to indicate the word you originally intended to say.


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So in the case of 'apples and pears' 'apples' has no other function that being an associated item with pears?

The only reason I'm stumped is because of this part of the explanation I originally posted:


Yeah, I'd say that the definition you got is bullshit. When I was working in London in a bar, one old guy would ask me for a pint of Nelson. The first time, I was like "Wtf, I don't think we serve that here..." and he said "Sure you do. Nelson... Mandella....? Stella!"

Nelson Mandella = Stella

There's simply no association there, they just rhyme.


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Well, you can abbreviate things after a while, so it's not uncommon in that case to say "apples" for "stairs", as far as I know. Care to confirm, Sushi?


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Well, you can abbreviate things after a while, so it's not uncommon in that case to say "apples" for "stairs", as far as I know. Care to confirm, Sushi?


Yep, see previous post

"A pint of Nelson"


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Lira
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quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
Yep, see previous post

"A pint of Nelson"

Saw it later. I'm struggling with my internet connection here, I was trying to delete my post after I saw yours, but failed


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Saw it later. I'm struggling with my internet connection here, I was trying to delete my post after I saw yours, but failed


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Lira slow, likes turtles


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