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DJ Robby Rox
Longterm Newbie

Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Tiestoland
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I think most people work the drums first but I still start with my kick/bass line 90% of the time.
Once I get that driving right, it seems everything else falls into place much easier. And if I start with other elements first, I notice if I need to solo the kick/bass line, it can often sound very weak.
And also, when I do this I know basically all my low freq headroom is used, and everything else will need to be low cut. I just prefer working that way, lower frequencies first builds the foundation for me, then leads/percussions usually tops it all off nicely.
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Sequencers: FL Studio 9XXL & Reason 3.
Main Synth Bass GTs - Pro-53, V-Station, Sytrus, Subtractor, Trilian, Blue, Sylenth & Z3ta.
Main Synth Lead/Pad GTs - Z3ta, Sytrus, Sylenth, Vangard, Albino & Nexus.
Main FXs GTs - Waves Plugins, Soundtoys, Volcano, FL Native FX.
Hardware - Truths, Echo Audiofire, Virus Snow, & Novation Xio Midi-Synth.
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Jan-13-2010 00:34
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TXC
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: Oct 2008
Location: Jonkoping
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i do it the same! All answers are appreciated!
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Jan-13-2010 00:41
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derail
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Feb 2007
Location: Canberra, Australia
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Re: Song Creation
| quote: | Originally posted by TXC
Hey! i wonder how u guys start up a new project with? Do you layer the drums first? Maybe you design the melody and pads first or what is it u really start upp with? |
Are you talking about a session dealing with sound design/ putting sounds together, or a session where you're composing? It sounds odd to me to read "design the melody" - I assume you mean either "compose the melody" or "design the lead sound".
I do most of my composition in separate sessions to production sessions. Composition is about getting catchy progressions and melodies together. Sound design isn't the primary focus during these sessions - the sounds used may bear no relationship to the final set of sounds chosen during the production stage.
In terms of a production session, it varies - yes, many times it's good to start with a solid foundation of kick and bass and build on it. But other times I get inspired by a pad sound, or a lead sound, and build the mix around that, choosing kick and bass sounds which fit the pad/lead, rather than the other way around.
There are many methods. It can be good to try other ways, but if your method is working well for you, stick with it!
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Jan-13-2010 01:00
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TXC
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: Oct 2008
Location: Jonkoping
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okej! There is some interestings thoughts! I personally start upp with kick/ Bass then drums! But i have a lot of projects thats unfinished so i wanted to start a new presidure!
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Jan-13-2010 01:04
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DJ Robby Rox
Longterm Newbie

Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Tiestoland
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I would imagine in the end it doesn't matter as much as we would think.
For instance, the way I start compared to Kysora has its obvious advantages and disadvantages.
Starting with the kick/bassline will get me to the break of a track, but I'm left sorting how the melody is gonna progress, and often times I will give up shortly after the break due to this.
Starting how Kysora starts, you KNOW what you're going to do come break time, or will have a general idea of how the melody is gonna progress, but when I do it that way I find its harder to develop the intro as I have a mentality of "it'll sound better once the melody drops".
And because I work with limited CPU/RAM at the moment, what ever I start first is usually what I wind up overcompensating for resource wise, and it leaves less resources for what I leave for last.
This is a mix I'm working on for the TA album. You'll notice the kick/bass sounds decent, but I'm stuck shortly after the break. I have my basic melody progression, but I have no counter melodies to build up to the main, which is what I'm currently working on now.
You can listen here if you want:
TA Album Demo
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Sequencers: FL Studio 9XXL & Reason 3.
Main Synth Bass GTs - Pro-53, V-Station, Sytrus, Subtractor, Trilian, Blue, Sylenth & Z3ta.
Main Synth Lead/Pad GTs - Z3ta, Sytrus, Sylenth, Vangard, Albino & Nexus.
Main FXs GTs - Waves Plugins, Soundtoys, Volcano, FL Native FX.
Hardware - Truths, Echo Audiofire, Virus Snow, & Novation Xio Midi-Synth.
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Jan-13-2010 02:31
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Zak McKracken
Trance
Registered: Jun 2003
Location:
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10? i think i have 10.000 unfinished tracks.
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Jan-13-2010 10:14
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TXC
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: Oct 2008
Location: Jonkoping
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hahahaha! You better start producing:P!
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Jan-13-2010 10:25
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