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USA Green Tech
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Registered: Jan 2010
Location: Chicago
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A much bigger loss for Republikans than expected. Great to see the largest success in the Democratic Party's history.
You can follow it on most websites or they're having extensive coverage on cable news. I see the major networks largely paying attention to it but they should be paying more.
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Jan-20-2010 00:31
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Moongoose
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Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Celje, Slovenia
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| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
the current administration's radical far left agenda and expansionist dreams just had cold water blasted in its face. |
Radical far left? Seriously, which drugs are you on, they are barely liberal as it is, let alone far left.
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
What's worse IMO, is that the Democrats will still try to push healthcare through in some diabolical way, knowing a clear majority of the people don't want it (in its current form). |
But since republicans did all their best to kill the reform that people actually wanted you dont get to complain about this.
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
The Americans who support our government passing legislation against the will of the people do not support our country as a representative republic or democracy, and have lost all credibility much as the current leaders in Washington have. |
The last poll about health care that i was bothered to look (from about a month ago i think) at still showed that the majority of people support and want the health care reform.
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
The people have spoken; stop this radical Orwellian intrusiveness and get the fuck out of our wallets and our lives. |
You know, i recently reread 1984, a lot of time has passed since ive read it last and i just waned to refresh my memory of it since it comes up in health care arguments. The thing is nothing in there about helth care. Plenty about the government spying on its own people, legislating morality and sstarting meaningless wars. Plenty more connections to Orwell by the previous than the current administration.
In the end though this might be a good thing for the democrats, sort of a wake up call that they cant sit on their asses and just talk. Everybody was so sure that with a 60 vote majority dems will accomplish wonderful things but as it is they have proven themselves incompetent. Well time to wake up and smell the decomposing bodies of the 40000 people who die each year because they dont have insurance.
And if all else fails, there's still reconciliation.
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Jan-20-2010 04:37
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The17sss
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Registered: May 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
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| quote: | Originally posted by Moongoose
Radical far left? Seriously, which drugs are you on, they are barely liberal as it is, let alone far left. |
You're telling me.... that the people in charge right now are not far left? Nancy Pelosi is moderate? Harry Reid? Barack Obama with the most liberal voting record in the Senate? They are barely liberal? I suppose the Pope is barely Catholic too. Crazy. This country is center-right... which is precisely WHY their agenda is being rejected; it is too far to the left.
| quote: | | But since republicans did all their best to kill the reform that people actually wanted you dont get to complain about this. |
That isn't accurate at all. They tried to ram it through in the summer before anyone read it; even most of them admitted they didn't. And the more time that passed, the more details came out... and the more people didn't want it. It's not just Republicans that oppose it's substace... I mean, what do you think today's election in 3.5 to 1 Democrat Massachusetts was about?
| quote: | | The last poll about health care that i was bothered to look (from about a month ago i think) at still showed that the majority of people support and want the health care reform. |
It's been solid for 2 months... support for Obamacare across all polls are between 35-42% in favor, and 52-60+ against. And it's like that in every state. The people don't want it, and they (government) don't care.
| quote: | | You know, i recently reread 1984, a lot of time has passed since ive read it last and i just waned to refresh my memory of it since it comes up in health care arguments. The thing is nothing in there about helth care. Plenty about the government spying on its own people, legislating morality and sstarting meaningless wars. Plenty more connections to Orwell by the previous than the current administration. |
I mean, Orwellian in the sense that they are omnipresent in all aspects of our lives. But legislating morality does come in to play; the healthcare issue is full of moral discussion.
| quote: | | And if all else fails, there's still reconciliation. |
This is true... but if they go that route, and pass it against the will of the people they are supposed to represent, they don't deserve to govern, and that will play out in November for certain.
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Jan-20-2010 07:07
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