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mark_gg_daniels
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Registered: Oct 2007
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Should I spend the money?

Ive been using PCs for years. Ive used fruityloops. reason and nuendo. But im coming into som cash in a couple of weeks, and am thinking is time to take the expensive leap to a mac?

I know this debate is not a new one. But is the money really worth having logic pro? Im quite serious I want to get into produing more, and am taking keyboard lessons and extra music tech courses. So in my mind im thinking, a one thousand pound investment cant be that much considering I may get a reurn at a later date..?

I havent used logic, but I hear it has some nice built in synths. I use VSTsalso, and asume nexus, moog,vanguard will all work on a mac right?

Also, will I be able to have the wide range of extra plugins yo ge with PC.. al those randomones like wave EQ etc etc....

yough one as its either a trip to New York, or a mac. Also I would like a mac book preerably because its smaller simply. But is it a lot more expensive to go for this option?

Thanks

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EddieZilker
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Yes. It's what I use. Mac and Logic are great...



















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I've never been as impressed with a sequencer as with Logic. I only have about 90mins of hands-on experience though, and would never want a mac to be honest. If I do buy a mac some day it will solely be because of Logic, which is, in my opinion, the only good thing mac has to offer.

Honestly I think you need to know what you're spending your money on... If you haven't had any experience with mac/logic then I personally think you shouldn't do it at all or find someone whom is happy to let you test logic on his mac.


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cryophonik
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Re: Should I spend the money?

quote:
Originally posted by mark_gg_daniels
...asume nexus, moog,vanguard will all work on a mac right?



I'm not aware of any Moog software. Do you mean the Soundtower librarian/editor for the Voyager, or maybe USB drivers for the Little Phatty?


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If you can't make great music on PC, you can't make great music on MAC.


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mark_gg_daniels
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I could make great msuc wuth a spoon and some milk bottles im so awesome.

What I really mean is is the qualty of the software really worth me spending a thousand quid. Is it that much more stable than pc, and is it as easy to use as people alledge.

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EddieZilker
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quote:
Originally posted by mark_gg_daniels
What I really mean is is the qualty of the software really worth me spending a thousand quid. Is it that much more stable than pc, and is it as easy to use as people alledge.


Yes and no. It really depends on how you look at it. You're well advised to weigh your options and do what comes naturally. You were wise to come to us with this problem. The upside is that you'd have a very acclaimed piece of software but there are downsides, as well. No matter what you do, you will be spending a sum of money. Both Mac and PC have their advantages and disadvantages. Yes and no. It really depends on how you look at it. You're well advised to weigh your options and do what comes naturally. You were wise to come to us with this problem. The upside is that you'd have a very acclaimed piece of software but there are downsides, as well. No matter what you do, you will be spending a sum of money. Both Mac and PC have their advantages and disadvantages. Yes and no. It really depends on how you look at it. You're well advised to weigh your options and do what comes naturally. You were wise to come to us with this problem. The upside is that you'd have a very acclaimed piece of software but there are downsides, as well. No matter what you do, you will be spending a sum of money. Both Mac and PC have their advantages and disadvantages. Yes and no. It really depends on how you look at it. You're well advised to weigh your options and do what comes naturally. You were wise to come to us with this problem. The upside is that you'd have a very acclaimed piece of software but there are downsides, as well. No matter what you do, you will be spending a sum of money. Both Mac and PC have their advantages and disadvantages. Yes and no. It really depends on how you look at it. You're well advised to weigh your options and do what comes naturally. You were wise to come to us with this problem. The upside is that you'd have a very acclaimed piece of software but there are downsides, as well. No matter what you do, you will be spending a sum of money. Both Mac and PC have their advantages and disadvantages. Yes and no. It really depends on how you look at it. You're well advised to weigh your options and do what comes naturally. You were wise to come to us with this problem. The upside is that you'd have a very acclaimed piece of software but there are downsides, as well. No matter what you do, you will be spending a sum of money. Both Mac and PC have their advantages and disadvantages. Yes and no. It really depends on how you look at it. You're well advised to weigh your options and do what comes naturally. You were wise to come to us with this problem. The upside is that you'd have a very acclaimed piece of software but there are downsides, as well. No matter what you do, you will be spending a sum of money. Both Mac and PC have their advantages and disadvantages. Yes and no. It really depends on how you look at it. You're well advised to weigh your options and do what comes naturally. You were wise to come to us with this problem. The upside is that you'd have a very acclaimed piece of software but there are downsides, as well. No matter what you do, you will be spending a sum of money. Both Mac and PC have their advantages and disadvantages.


Oh, and you should probably read the FAQ.

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alanzo
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That's an impressive pile of text you have there.


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EddieZilker
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There is always something to consider.


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mark_gg_daniels
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so, no proper answers than... thats a shame

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EddieZilker
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quote:
Originally posted by mark_gg_daniels
so, no proper answers than... thats a shame


We take a very non-judgmental approach, here.













There are actually valid reasons for it. For starters, too many posts based on completely informed opinions that, in the end, have very little to do with the actual business of music production. It's argument for the sake of having one and, in the end, completely fruitless as there is nothing I've heard done on either a Mac or a PC that can't be done on a Mac or a PC.

Your question is akin to asking if you should have steak or tofu, for dinner. There are people on both sides of that debate who could argue ad nauseum about either's merits and demerits. "I don't like Tofu - it has no smell and the texture is too soft." "Well, you can buy denser versions of Tofu without contributing to the unclean slaughter of animals!" "People have been eating steak for years! I love the way it tastes on the grill - yummy and juicy!"

Eventually, people who have too much ego attached to their opinions start getting nasty. The bottom line is that it doesn't matter what you purchase. The quick answer is that you should absolutely get a mac with Logic Pro. I use a PC with Cakewalk Sonar 8.5. You, however, shouldn't concern yourself with what I'm using. You should only concern yourself with whether or not that sequencer has features that appeal to you.

I looked at a ton of sequencers, including Logic, in addition to also looking at Macs and PC's; before I made a decision on which ones I wanted. They ALL have features I could use along with drawbacks and features that I can't appreciate. Sonar and PC had the feature set I wanted. If they don't appeal to you, I fully understand.

The bottom line is that no one, here or anywhere else, can tell you what to buy. If they do, then they are doing you a huge disservice. If you haven't figured it out already, do the research yourself. There are so many players in the game, currently, that it's literally like asking what kind of car you should buy; what religion and then denomination you should choose; what cult you should join - and sometimes just as thorny.

If you'd asked what sequencer you should have bought back in 1993, I would have told you Notator on Atari, without missing a beat. They had the best MIDI timing money could afford and, although Notator could not record audio (none of them, at least in that price range, could) and costed a whopping $850.00 it still brought the goods and did a damn good job. It's graphic interface was ultra easy to understand and it was rock-solid - even though every now and then it would spit out a glitchy torrent of MIDI that I sometimes think is the genesis for glitch.

Since then Notator, my very favorite old-skool sequencer, has actually become Logic Pro - that sequencer IS Logic's great, great, great, great(^4) grandfather. I never would have recommended Cakewalk. That sequencer was a fucking joke compared to Notator. I actually sat down with Cakewalk and hated the MIDI editing and the graphic interface - there was no GUI. It was practically all text. Times have changed.


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DigiNut
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quote:
Originally posted by mark_gg_daniels
so, no proper answers than... thats a shame

I hate to welcome people to the production studio this way, but the "Mac vs. PC" ̶f̶l̶a̶m̶e̶ w̶a̶r debate has been done to death and is officially off-limits. You can find many, many, many historical debates if you search for them.

Eddie, I appreciate the thought you put into your answer, and I think that's a great note on which to end the discussion.


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