Become a part of the TranceAddict community!Frequently Asked Questions - Please read this if you haven'tSearch the forums
TranceAddict Forums > DJing / Production / Promotion > Production Studio > Some advice on this song I'm working on...
Pages (2): [1] 2 »   Last Thread   Next Thread
Share
Author
Thread    Post A Reply
RAVproductions
Junior tranceaddict



Registered: Jan 2010
Location:
Some advice on this song I'm working on...

Not sure if this is the correct forum, but I saw a similar post so I thought I'd go for it.
I've been working on this song for a couple weeks and just can't seem to get the sound I want. I think it is the structure that I can't get right. My build-ups and releases seem very weak. I'm starting to think that I'm overcomplicating it. But if you don't care to, take a listen, try to listen to the whole song if you can. I admit it isn't near professional, but I think that it has potential otherwise I would have dropped it. Anyways, here's the link...should be the first song.

http://www.myspace.com/ravproductions13

Again, thanks. All criticism is welcomed.

Old Post Feb-10-2010 19:53  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for RAVproductions Click here to Send RAVproductions a Private Message Add RAVproductions to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Eric J
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Nov 2006
Location:

Drums are very static. no groove or shuffle.
Very plain. Just drums, one bass line and one melody line, there needs to be a lot more to generate interest. Need much more in the way of effects and/or sequence elements.
The parts do not build on each other. No sense of structure at all. No establishment of a theme and variation or recapitulation of the theme. Its like you just threw everything into the one track. Ask yourself, what statement is this track trying to make?

Long segments where there is no bass line.

Keep working at it, but you've got a fair bit to go.

Old Post Feb-10-2010 21:01  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for Eric J Click here to Send Eric J a Private Message Add Eric J to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
RAVproductions
Junior tranceaddict



Registered: Jan 2010
Location:

Well, that just makes me want to throw away the track altogether. Thanks for being honest though.

Old Post Feb-11-2010 03:42  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for RAVproductions Click here to Send RAVproductions a Private Message Add RAVproductions to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
floyd741
addict



Registered: Dec 2008
Location: Chicago

it's boring as hell


___________________
"I pay no attention whatever to anybody's praise or blame. I simply follow my own feelings." -Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
Soundcloud

Old Post Feb-11-2010 03:46  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for floyd741 Click here to Send floyd741 a Private Message Add floyd741 to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
RAVproductions
Junior tranceaddict



Registered: Jan 2010
Location:

Yeah, I'm definitely trashing it.
There just isn't anything good about it worth keeping.

Old Post Feb-11-2010 03:49  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for RAVproductions Click here to Send RAVproductions a Private Message Add RAVproductions to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
sako487
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: May 2009
Location:

If you cant finish the track within a week, trash it. Most of the songs I make, musically/structurally, take about an hour or two. The rest of the tweaking comes later.

Old Post Feb-11-2010 03:57  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for sako487 Click here to Send sako487 a Private Message Add sako487 to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
DJ_Rafnel
Microbrew Addict



Registered: Jul 2009
Location: South Sterling, PA

quote:
Originally posted by sako487
If you cant finish the track within a week, trash it. Most of the songs I make, musically/structurally, take about an hour or two. The rest of the tweaking comes later.


Wait...why should you have to trash a song if you can't finish it within a week?

Some artists just have a different work flow than others. Even some big names take a long time on their tracks, some don't. It comes down to the individual.

Oh and to RAV:
If it's the first song on your profile. I dig the feel, just work on building it up more. You'll get it. Just keep at it! Cheers man!


___________________
Current Releases:
Wayde Rafnel & Dave Correa - Derailed [Spinnin]
Wayde Rafnel - Struggle [Vibrate Sounds]

Email for promo/press contact

Old Post Feb-11-2010 14:14  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for DJ_Rafnel Click here to Send DJ_Rafnel a Private Message Visit DJ_Rafnel's homepage! Add DJ_Rafnel to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Richard Butler
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Apr 2009
Location: London

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Rafnel
Wait...why should you have to trash a song if you can't finish it within a week?

Some artists just have a different work flow than others. Even some big names take a long time on their tracks, some don't. It comes down to the individual.



Hell yes!

Fedde Legrande says he can take many many weeks fussing over every detail, and that he's a perfectionist.

In film the reason someone like Ridley Scott puts such awesome images on screen is he takes detail very very seriously.

Chopin is celebrated today as every note was thought through and placed.

The worlds best chefs are ALL about an ability to think through the tiny details more than the rest, otherwise anyone more or less could be great.

I see no reason why music is different, unless we are satying some people are just born genious' but I dont buy that. Jean Michelle Jarre was a genious but he was also a master of detail and precision.


___________________
https://soundcloud.com/butlerrichard

Old Post Feb-11-2010 18:08  United Kingdom
Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Butler Click here to Send Richard Butler a Private Message Add Richard Butler to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
coroknight
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Apr 2008
Location: Deeper

I think what is meant by that statement is that it shouldn't take a week to get your ideas down for one track. If you can't come up with a melody for a track in a week it might be a good idea to start over.

However, fine tuning and tweaking things and arranging can take a while.


___________________

ಠ_ಠ
<|>
/ω\

Old Post Feb-12-2010 11:01  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for coroknight Click here to Send coroknight a Private Message Add coroknight to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
DJ_Rafnel
Microbrew Addict



Registered: Jul 2009
Location: South Sterling, PA

I still don't really agree. You shouldn't limit yourself.

I started working on a track back in August...forgot about it and came back to it in Oct...ended up being one of the best things i ever wrote.

Just saying, why limit yourself to time restrictions or whatever?

At least save your project and come back to it later on.


___________________
Current Releases:
Wayde Rafnel & Dave Correa - Derailed [Spinnin]
Wayde Rafnel - Struggle [Vibrate Sounds]

Email for promo/press contact

Old Post Feb-12-2010 12:26  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for DJ_Rafnel Click here to Send DJ_Rafnel a Private Message Visit DJ_Rafnel's homepage! Add DJ_Rafnel to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
RAVproductions
Junior tranceaddict



Registered: Jan 2010
Location:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Rafnel
Wait...why should you have to trash a song if you can't finish it within a week?

Some artists just have a different work flow than others. Even some big names take a long time on their tracks, some don't. It comes down to the individual.

Oh and to RAV:
If it's the first song on your profile. I dig the feel, just work on building it up more. You'll get it. Just keep at it! Cheers man!


Thanks for the encouragement, but I think I'll just start over with some new ideas. Still new to making tracks, I guess I have a lot to learn. It will take time.

Old Post Feb-12-2010 16:30  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for RAVproductions Click here to Send RAVproductions a Private Message Add RAVproductions to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Evolve140
Only Sidechaining a Bit



Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Denver

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Rafnel
I still don't really agree. You shouldn't limit yourself.

I started working on a track back in August...forgot about it and came back to it in Oct...ended up being one of the best things i ever wrote.

Just saying, why limit yourself to time restrictions or whatever?

At least save your project and come back to it later on.


Yup, I have about 300-400 unfinished projects over the years. There are some from this year, last year, and even 6 years ago that I know one day I will work on again. It's always nice coming back to an old track with fresh ears, it always sounds so fresh and new even though you made it.

Old Post Feb-12-2010 20:37 
Click Here to See the Profile for Evolve140 Click here to Send Evolve140 a Private Message Add Evolve140 to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message

TranceAddict Forums > DJing / Production / Promotion > Production Studio > Some advice on this song I'm working on...
Post New Thread    Post A Reply

Pages (2): [1] 2 »  
Last Thread   Next Thread
Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackWho knows this KILLER TUNE ? [2003] [1]

Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackThe Advent - "Motor" (Chris Liebing Remix) [2002]

Show Printable Version | Subscribe to this Thread
Forum Jump:

All times are GMT. The time now is 04:07.

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is ON
vB code is ON
[IMG] code is ON
 
Search this Thread:

 
Contact Us - return to tranceaddict

Powered by: Trance Music & vBulletin Forums
Copyright ©2000-2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Privacy Statement / DMCA
Support TA!