I've never had any issues. Especially if you're buying from a large retailer, they will take returns if something is significantly wrong with the unit.

Novamusik is great. You can definitely buy with confidence from them.

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I only buy things second hand that don't have a very limited lifespan. Audio interfaces, most synths, keyboards and so on are safe. However, I would never buy a mixer or monitors second hand, as people are dumbasses and I don't trust them to have not abused them.

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Originally posted by floyd741 i think echosystm is a pretty cool guy. eh pwns robby rox and doesn't afraid of anything.

How does one abuse a mixer? Bought my 01v96 v2 open box for about $1000 off retail. Been quote happy for ummm.... 4 years? Ditto for my TI2.

To OP: if price is good- e.g. 20% off or better - go for it or negotiate it down. If not, your call - I wouldn't do it, as I can finagle 10-15% off righ off the bat.

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Yeah monitors second hand is a no go, don't know about the mixer tho

The reboxed virus I got from Nova was great. Also, Nova told me just because an item says "reboxed" doesn't mean it was used by someone else. I'm not sure wft else could lead to something getting reboxed, but I had asked them this a few months back.

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Originally posted by echosystm I only buy things second hand that don't have a very limited lifespan. Audio interfaces, most synths, keyboards and so on are safe. However, I would never buy a mixer or monitors second hand, as people are dumbasses and I don't trust them to have not abused them.

I'm not sure why you think a mixer would get more abuse then a keyboard. I can understand monitors but not a mixer. There are also people like me who don't own mixers, and execute mixer functions with knobs on their keyboard. I'm just not seeing a difference, and if I had a mixer, I'd actually expect my keyboard to be used more.

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Main Synth Lead/Pad GTs - Z3ta, Sytrus, Sylenth, Vangard, Albino & Nexus.
Main FXs GTs - Waves Plugins, Soundtoys, Volcano, FL Native FX.
Hardware - Truths, Echo Audiofire, Virus Snow, & Novation Xio Midi-Synth.

Sigh. Use your brains guys, seriously.

Analog attenuators/pots are wear items, in that the sound quality unavoidably degrades over the life of the product, just from normal use. The same applies to woofers/tweeters on a pair of speakers. A key on a keyboard might break, but this will not affect the sound, hence why it is not so much of an issue.

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox I've never had a problem with FLs tech support till this day. (I've actually never used it till this day)

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Originally posted by floyd741 i think echosystm is a pretty cool guy. eh pwns robby rox and doesn't afraid of anything.

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Originally posted by echosystm Sigh. Use your brains guys, seriously. Analog attenuators/pots are wear items, in that the sound quality unavoidably degrades over the life of the product, just from normal use. The same applies to woofers/tweeters on a pair of speakers. A key on a keyboard might break, but this will not affect the sound, hence why it is not so much of an issue.

Yeah, those NS10's drop in value like rockets. Not to mention Neve, SSL, and other decks that are just going for dimes on a dollar - horrible. I hear ya.

/sarcasm...

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there are always exceptions. you know overall he's right on the money.

there is nothing wrong with buying b stock or re-boxed in my opinion. as robby said, sometimes they have not even been used. I got a $1100 Rane Empath Rotary for $700 because they had to repair a rack ear on it before selling it. The thing was never even turned on.

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Originally posted by aNYthing Yeah, those NS10's drop in value like rockets. Not to mention Neve, SSL, and other decks that are just going for dimes on a dollar - horrible. I hear ya. /sarcasm...

LOL just because idiots don't realise that the insides can be effected doesn't mean it's not true... the point wasn't whether you can get them cheap or not, it was that it can be risky buying gear like that, for the reasons he already stated

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Originally posted by aNYthing Yeah, those NS10's drop in value like rockets. Not to mention Neve, SSL, and other decks that are just going for dimes on a dollar - horrible. I hear ya. /sarcasm...

Pretty sure most people buying vintage consoles spend a few thousand getting them fixed up, and I think his comment was directed more at DJ gear anyway, which cops more of a beating generally than studio gear.

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