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Aren Suvan
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Registered: Mar 2010
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Creating > Driving Trance Bass Lines

Hey guys,

Iv just been working with logic studio for the past month and am trying to get particular sounds right to make the type of trance songs I want to produce....

Im a little stuck on how to develop a driving trance bass line, I sort have some ideas of the pattern required (2 notes played and octave apart) but still now sure about the exact patter I would create in the sequencer. Ive got some good sounding bass synths with logic and also Nexus..

Most producers seem to use the same sort of bass line, particualary i like the Daniel Kandi, Sean Tyas, Simon Patterson type of sound..

Can anyone give me any hints on how to get this sound ?

I realise there are probably other elements to getting this sound to (ie good percussions and bass kick).....i realise this has prob been asked off before but would appreciate any help with this.

Cheers

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tehlord
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Start here :-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bEskmkJbRY


And see what else you need to know after that!


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Sonic_c
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Erm...

did you read the thread I started where sean tyas himself explains it?

on the main page? no... with sean tyas and bassline in the title? No...

its here

http://tranceaddict.com/forums/show...7&forumid=48&s=


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sako487
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B = kick
X = higher octave bass
x = lower octave bass

BxXxBxXxBxXxBxXx

Basic rolling bassline right there, but you could change it up

And yea your right, you need decent percussion, not too much just enough.


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MSZ
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i think you should worry about white noise more, just remember infuse that stuff all across your track, or it wont be signed to anjunabeats.

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quote:
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i think you should worry about white noise more, just remember infuse that stuff all across your track, or it wont be signed to anjunabeats.


Have been focusing on noise so freakn much myself lately. I continously here very boring stagnant basslines that are saturated with distored noise grooves and it seems like 90% of the drive is coming from the instability of how the noise is incorporated.

But its truely amazing what noise can do for an avg bassline when used correctly, it can really set a bassline on fire imo.


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sako487
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
Have been focusing on noise so freakn much myself lately. I continously here very boring stagnant basslines that are saturated with distored noise grooves and it seems like 90% of the drive is coming from the instability of how the noise is incorporated.

But its truely amazing what noise can do for an avg bassline when used correctly, it can really set a bassline on fire imo.


True, just a tad bit can make the bassline sizzle!


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Aren Suvan
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That airbase tutorial was invaluable, as was reading Tyas's words.....definantly enough to get me started

Yeh im sure im gona hav white noise issues once im trying to piece all the parts together, guess ill hav to deal with that issue later at this stage just tryin to get all the sounds im looking for to put a track together...

Cheers guys

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Wow, what's up with basslines lately, everyone is racing about it. But anyway , one thing to take note is that , if your looking for those trance running bassline, one synth wouldn't be enough to do the job. Your gonna need to layer your basslines with multiple synths, especially doing so with different synths. Just my 2 cents. ^^


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sako487
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quote:
Originally posted by IceColdWater
Wow, what's up with basslines lately, everyone is racing about it. But anyway , one thing to take note is that , if your looking for those trance running bassline, one synth wouldn't be enough to do the job. Your gonna need to layer your basslines with multiple synths, especially doing so with different synths. Just my 2 cents. ^^


True, 2 mid basses layered and 1 sub bass (all sidechained) should be good, but its become so cliche in trance.


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True, 2 mid basses layered and 1 sub bass (all sidechained) should be good, but its become so cliche in trance.



Sometimes I can go to the extent of using 5 mid basses , 1 low bass and 1 sub bass , and in the end , it doesn't sound much compared to 2 mid basses.


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Sonic_c
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Like i said I used 5 basses and an acid line in my last remix, first time i 'really' achieved that driving modern sound.


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